Whichever way you crunch the numbers, the new 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 owns the 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 when it comes to sheer power.
According to their respective manufacturers, at the flywheel, the $54,995 Camaro ZL1's 6.2-liter supercharged V8 produces 580hp at 6,000 rpm and 556 lb.-ft. (754 Nm) at 4,200 rpm, while the $54,200 Shelby GT500's 5.8-liter supercharged V8 delivers 662hp at 6,250 rpm and 631 lb.-ft. (856Nm) at 4,000 rpm.
In a recent dyno test from Inside Line, the Camaro ZL1 delivered 497hp and 497 lb-ft (673Nm) on the rear wheels, while the Shelby GT500, 595hp and 602 lb-ft (815Nm) respectively.
So, how do these numbers translate on the road? Well, after drawing their swords on the dyno, Inside Line took the two cars to the track, and the results are both expected and to some extent, surprising.
Naturally, the more powerful Ford was faster than the Chevy recording a 0-60mph (96km/h) time of 4.0 seconds and completing the quarter mile (400m) in 11.9 seconds with an exit speed of 123.5mph (198.7 km/h).
That's compared to the ZL1's 4.4 second 0-60mph run and 12.4 seconds @ 114.7mph (184.6 km/h) for the 1/4 mile.
But when it came to handling, the ZL1 came on top.
In fact, with a 1.03g average lateral acceleration performance on the skid pad, the Camaro ZL1 not only beat the Shelby GT500's 0.98g but also the Corvette ZR1 and matched the McLaren MP4-12C and Porsche 911 GT2 RS for the highest lateral acceleration ever recorded by the online magazine.
The ZL1 was also faster through the slalom recording a speed of 70.8mph (113.9km/h) versus 69.1mph (111.2km/h) for the Shelby GT500.
The Ford, however, stopped from 60mph (96km/h) in 109 feet (32.2m) versus 110 feet (33.5m) for the Camaro.
We should mention that the Shelby GT500 tested by IL was equipped with the optional SVT Performance package, SVT Track Pack and Recaro seats that added $8,085 to the list price, while the Camaro ZL1 was fitted with a $500 Interior Microfiber package, $470 bright forged wheels and a $600 carbon-fiber hood insert.
For more a detailed presentation of the comparison test, check out IL's video that follows after the break.
32 Comments:
R.I.P. ZL1 (Again)
So Im still in confusion as to WHY this Magazine says the ZL1 beat the SHELBY???
0-60: SHELBY1/4 Mile: SHELBY
HP:SHLEBYTorque:SHELBY
Lat G's: ZL1
Slalom: ZL1 (Barely for IRS vs SLA)
60-0: SHELBY
AM I MISSING SOMETHING VITAL TO THEIR DECISION???
You must not have read the ENTIRE article because in the end the GT500 came in second according to InsideLine behind the ZL1. The GT500 with less weight and 100 more whp is obviously faster in the straight but the ZL1 has total balance. Next time stay in school and you will learn to read a book cover to cover.
Am i the only one that gets sucked in by the top image with the "Play" logo in the pic thinking it's the actual video? Then get frustrated waiting for the page to refresh? Honestly, quit that shit Carscoop.
Only an american could said that...
So the dollar figures should read ... ZL-1 = $54,995, Plus $1,780 in options for a total of $56,775.
The Shelby should read ... $54,200, Plus $8,085 for a total of $62,285.
And despite the GT 500 power advantage and 'Dusko's' comment, we have these test results/comments by 'Winding Road'
Did That Just Happen?
Nothing is more humbling than watching a car with 100 fewer horses and
the extra weight of an NFL running back disappear into the distance on a
back road. But that's exactly what happened when we brought the two
cars together to establish which is the best-driving pony car ever. The
answer, as improbable as it seemed, was as obvious as the Camaro's
shrinking taillights.
Wait. Isn't this a Camaro? Yes, yes it is. The best Camaro ever.
The angriest Mustang in history, the car that had face-punched the
ZL1 for months at auto shows and in Web forums was being systematically
annihilated by that exact car. Every corner was another opportunity for
the Camaro to drop its trousers and wave its giant bowtie-emblazoned butt in the
GT500's face.
So... the brain dead Zombies like Dusko, don't rule the earth.
Oh no, The ZL1 lost by a couple ticks in a competition it wasn't optimized for, what a surprise! The Camaro was designed to be a Green Hell eater, and that's exactly what it does. The Mustang lost by a couple ticks in the handling department, big deal. It has gobs of power and is still a blast for any human driver to reign in. BOTH ARE AMAZING AMERICAN VEHICLES! And at a fraction of the price of their so-called "competition". Congrats, Chevy. Congrats, Ford.
he Camaro comes ready for the track, with extra system cooling
features standard on every single car. The Mustang requires you to spend
$3495 on the SVT Performance Package, and then another $2995 on an SVT
Track Package to get the same level of heavy-duty equipment that is
standard on the Chevy. So really, to get a competitive Mustang, you may
face spending $60,690.
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no GTR 35 drivers are gonna lose sleep over such results...
No GTR 35 driver ever sleeps because they're always driving around in their douchebag cars blaring shitty Euro-pop disco from the speakers all day and night trying to get someone, other than themselves, to care about their Japanimationmobile, that looks like a lowly 2-door Altima, anyway.
Retard.
I like your style.
is it just me or GTR fanboys compare everything from supercars to a vacuum cleaner...
That is the bottom line Blayke... it is a Win! Win!
Correction; That was from 'Inside Line'.
Read the full tests at their sites. Inside line and Winding Road.
You can drive a GT- R in your sleep. A monumental masterpiece for taking the life out of Hi-performance driving. The 370Z is more for to drive. And yes, I have both track and road time in a GT-R. And yes, I do like it, but it is no 365 GTB Ferrari or even a lowly MX-5, both of which have gobs of character and charisma on the road.
I can say this about the GT-R it has impressive performance numbers for the money, or did until the latest pricing. I compare it to the top of the line Samsung Refrigerator, a highly functional piece of work, but it has about as much life as the appliance.
Yes, read the full report at 'Inside Line' and then go over to 'Winding Road'
'Inside Line' correctly calls these vehicles 'Pony' cars. There is hope for the young automotive journalists.
Only a Russian would would say that.
Don't forget the $1300 gas guzzler tax on the ZL1.
This compairison is a joke first notice the difference in launch rpm the camaro is 2500+ with wheel spin the gt500 is from idle even boggs the 662 hp a little [LOL], the salom the guy is working the camaro's wheel like he stole it the gt500 he looks like he's on a sunday drive the skid pad the camaro is turned in 4 ft from the cone the gt500 8ft [comon get it a little closer] notice the brake lights on the camaro at 1:50 and the little increase in throttle on gt500 at 1:58 to get the rear tires to break loose, gm must sponsor insideline, motortrend is getting 0to60 in 3.5sec 11.6 in the 1/4 on the gt500 and they are'nt having trouble launching the gt500 they have video of some 3800 rpm lauches on street tires with lc
i agree with be fair.
they seem to be dismissing ford entirely and the "host's" tone towards the end of the video sounds completely one sided. there's no commentary in the footage while they're testing each car (like at what rpm each car is launching at or how each car feels behind the wheel) and yes, i get it: they were just running numbers/figures so who cares about commentators or narrators, right? wrong! when you look at other online magazine companies testing these cars they know how to truly test them in full detail, it's almost like they can feel the soul of each car they drive and can interpret it into a way that your 85 year old grandmother or 5 year old cousin could understand. this so called, "battle of the pony cars" just seems like GM's marketing team pulled 'INSIDE LINE' aside and said, "hey, we know we're gonna get our asses kicked in a straight line 0-60, 1/4 mile, and braking test, AND horsepower, AND torque, AND 200mph top speed so just try to cushion out the numbers to make it look more even.... BUT check out our skid pad test: it's 1.04 vs 0.98.... HA! beat that FORD" this quote about sums up the outcome of the test results and the tone for the video. Please make no mistake; I am not siding with the mustang nor am i ruling out that the camaro may be able to beat the mustang on a full length time trial track (though i would doubt that), i am merely criticizing how horrible this ford vs chevy video is. bottom line: i want a better and more professional test of these two cars than this guy just flat out sticking his thumb up his ass* while telling the camera, "the camaro has got it completely covered in handling test, IT'S NO CONTEST".... no contest? says who? because last time we all checked, the numbers seemed pretty close to me...
Ford avoided that with the nearly useless, under driven, 6th gear
Simple little tests aimed at minescule wins for either car.
Get the same driver who has not been paid off by one brand or the other, and run several laps in anger around a complete race track. Then see who is the last man standing!
It isnt useless if it helped save over $1000. It isnt useless if you get better gas mileage. So is it really useless?
You will have to wait for the track for such "bold" statements. Camaro might handle better, but it cannot keep up in acceleration when compared to the Shelby. Which is why it will lose in the track. Yes tracks have lots of turns, but what is after every turn? Acceleration. Take a look at the M3 and the 2011 Mustang GT (5.0) The Mustang lost by .01 of a second at Willow Springs. And of course the M3 handles WAY better.
Well, the Mustang has a better track time as noted. This is more subjective than objective. It is the preference of what the driver desires in a car. So, that being said I would take the Ford.
It really doesn't save fuel or improve mileage, it is used to get by the EPA's formatted fuel use profile. Ford and GM do the same thing with the V-6's and regular V-8's. Just try accelerating those cars in high gear at freeway speeds, glaciers move faster.
The only time you can use the gear is going down hill. And you probably have a higher top speed with the 5th gear then the 6th..
But it does save the guzzler fee, as if that matters at this price point, especially since the Stang will cost a lot more then a similarly equipped Camaro .
Not a bad video< but it could have been better.
Except for the fact that every other magazine has reached the same results. The Ford is the strip car and the Camaro is the road course car,. They all also say the Camaro feels much more confident and piosed when cornering. Take it for what it is. The Camaro team spent thier development on the whole car. The wanted a performance car that handled and that a regular guy could comfortably push to it's limits.
Ford went a different route and spent it's money on a fantastic motor. They then only focused on the supporting mods for the motor and to support the 200mph target they set.
There is nothing wrong with either method. While these cars are in the same class they are aimed in totally different directions. Both are fantastic cars that for the money can beat 99% of everything else out there in any way.
I personally like the Camaro "whole deal"/"integrated system" concept better but thats just my opinion. Though mostly I am just glad that we can argue about 2 American cars that are both over 550 HP.
Camaro still sucks compared to the shelby. Always has, always will.
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