Toyota Wants Second-Gen 86 To Be New Supra’s ‘Little Brother’

Toyota Australia has revealed that a second-generation of the 86 compact sports coupe is on its way.

Earlier this year, a Japanese publication claimed that neither the Toyota 86 or Subaru BRZ would get direct replacements. The BRZ would allegedly be replaced by a more expensive version of the new Supra, while the 86 would have been killed off.

However, a Toyota spokesperson told Carscoops that the 86 will indeed continue to solider on – and so did Subaru for its rear-wheel drive coupe.

Now, Toyota Australia public affairs manager Brodie Bott has informed GoAuto that not only will the 86 continue to be a part of the brand’s lineup, but that it will be updated with a second-generation model.

“When those reports blew up, we had a few chats internally and I can tell you right now, the car (second-generation 86) is coming.

“I don’t know where these reports have come from, but at this stage we are certainly not looking to discontinue it, it’s a pretty important car for us and it will be the little brother to the Supra.”

What’s more, Bott added that those within Toyota have already seen the second-generation 86 and that it is just around the corner.

Not much is known about the second-generation 86, and it’s unknown if it will be developed and built with the help of Subaru like the current model. According to some reports, the new 86 could receive an enlarged 2.4-liter four-cylinder flat-four which would most likely be naturally-aspirated.

The rumors suggested that Toyota would drop the 86 in order to ensure that it didn’t cannibalize sales of the entry-level Supra. However, even the four-cylinder version of the Supra, which will be sold in select markets, will be substantially more expensive than the 86.

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  • EM1

    This time around Subaru better offer AWD on their BRZ.

    • Loquacious Borborygmus

      Why?

  • ErnieB

    Toyota has lost all respect with the Supra.. a smaller brother would just add insult to injury..

    • Ary Wisesa

      Have you ever actually test driven it? Can you actually afford it? If not, then your comment is not credible and based only on pure assumption and hatred.

      • ErnieB

        Yes.. I can afford it and no I have not test driven it.. would never consider it because it looks ugly to me. So yes I am biased against it. I also think lol Toyota’s except the 4Runner are crap looking and offensive to my tastes..

        • Krisnadi Imam

          4runner good looking? u mad bro? their only good looking stuff are the LC series, well perhaps the newest corolla hatch is passable.

          • TheAmerican2point0

            Huh. I don’t care for the LC, really don’t like the new corolla, but I do like the looks of the 4 runners

      • Loquacious Borborygmus

        Do you have to be able to afford it to critique it?

      • KAG25

        Oh no, we have to do a credit report before we can comment

  • Expect the 2nd generation model by 2025 hah

  • Matt

    Why do all these reports come out of Australia? Most car makers are pretty quiet concerning future model plans but their Australian divisions always seem to reveal secret plans to their media. It’s a trend I’ve noticed…

    • XtremeMaC

      I was thinking the same exact thing lol. What’s more is Aus don’t have much production facilities anymore, only tech centers. I guess they wanna be heard 🙂

  • SpongeBob99Swell

    It would make better sense if the Celica returns as the Supra’s little brother it pretty much was since the Supra’s birth.

    While I’m glad to know that Toyota blessed the 86, what the next-gen needs is to improve upon it’s already amazing predecessor with it being a true driver’s car that isn’t solely about power, and doing the sacred ritual of the Hachi-Roku. 🙂

    • Astonman

      I like that idea of the return of the Celica. My first car was the 82 Celica GTS. Loved it. Brings back great memories.

  • Six_Tymes

    Great idea. But When? I might be too old to buy one by the time its released. I would have bought the current gen, but I can stand that center dash air vent design, too distracting for me.

    • Loquacious Borborygmus

      Of all the things not right with the car, that was one I didn’t see.

  • Krisnadi Imam

    so are we getting the rebagded BMW M2 then?

  • Thegunof42 88’s

    How much littler can it get, if the current 86 is longer than the Supra?

  • tt tt

    In other words they will base the second gen 86 on a BMW 320i ?

  • MarkoS

    Sounds like the return of the Celica to me.

  • SteersUright

    Hope it finally has the power it deserves to match its exceptional handling.

  • Knotmyrealname

    It’s little Brother will be a Grandfather by the time Toyota gets it’s development act together.

  • Kwikcilva

    Article: New gt-86 on it’s way
    Me: Ok I am expecting a new gt-86 in 5 years
    Article: those in Toyota have already seen it and it is just around the corner
    Me: Ok, I am expecting it in 3 years then

    • Kagan

      5 years for toyota is a short time.

  • Maisch

    The concept is great as it is, make the new one lighter, and ditch the boxer engine. A 1.8l 280hp supercharged and turbocharged engine would be nice. Crisp response from every rev, max power high up in the rev range and a much more interesting sound than a 4cyl. And the engine can be set back far back in the chassis.

    • Loquacious Borborygmus

      What is this 1.8 you have in mind? A V6?

      • Maisch

        Opps, forgot to add that its a 3cyl, they sound nice and have good you can achieve good turbo system performance.

    • Alduin

      You’re an idiot,why should they ditch the boxer engine? It has the best lower center of gravity vs an inline engine and has better performance than an inline engine too. You know absolutely nothing about cars obviously.

      • Maisch

        No, im an engine performance development engineer actually. You have to position the engine pretty high up to be able to package exhaust and stuff below it, so cog isnt that big of an advantage. Exhaust pipes are excessively long creating crap turbo system efficiency and bad response, and challenges with emissions. The packaging is crap aswell since its so tight around the heads making alot of engine work a nightmare. but what do i know, as a senior engineer i engine performance development..

  • Mill0048

    Yeah, maybe a near final design is around the corner? Or worse a concept.

  • DMax

    Now that the Supra is here, the 86 is definitely not getting a factory turbo. Sad face

    • nastinupe

      Well now we know why. Everyone assumed that the Supra would have been more powerful. There’s simply no room for it since it only has 335 hp and the 86 has 205. Their performance would basically overlap. Everyone assumed that the Supra would be closer to GT-R level power and it wasn’t. That would have made a lot more sense. I feel like the Supra should have had around 450 with a higher level having around 525 and then the 86 could have a 205 and 320 hp option.

  • Danny Boy

    Small turbo with 5 sec 0-60 and call it a Celica! Duh…..(It really is a good looking car)
    Then all you have to do is reissue the second gen MR2 !!!!
    90’s all over again.

  • Alduin

    The next BRZ/86 should be AWD this time. Toyota version should be renamed Celica GT Four or Alltrack. The BRZ should be renamed WRX Coupe GT.

  • salamOOn

    so should we expect some kind of bmw 2 coupe kit car?

  • javier

    86 should be at least 275 hp and supra over 400, it’s that simple

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