James Glickenhaus Calls Out De Tomaso For Copying The Ferrari P4/5 [Update: De Tomaso Responds]

We heard back from De Tomaso which responded to this story with an official statement that you can find below.  Updated 7/9/2019

De Tomaso used the Goodwood Festival of Speed to unveil the new P72 and it appears not everyone is a fan.

While the car is pretty stunning, it also looks a bit familiar. James Glickenhaus believes there’s a good reason for this as he suggested the model is nothing more than a copy.

In a tweet posted by Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus, he accused De Tomaso of putting “tracing paper over our P3/4” and then pasting “much” of the design from the P4/5. He also accused the company of stealing interior design details from Pagani.

He summed up his sentiments by saying “I see Koons not Caravaggio.” This appears to be a reference to American artist Jeff Koons and Italian painter Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio.

The tweet also quoted Jesse Glickenhaus as giving Google’s definition of a copy as “A thing made to be similar or identical to another.”

We’ve reached out to De Tomaso for comment, but the P72 does share a number of similarities to the P4/5. The whole front end looks like an evolved version of the P4/5 and canopy is also similar. However, there a bigger differences further back as the P72 features more flamboyant bodywork, larger intakes and unique side skirts.

Also Read: De Tomaso Returns With P72 Supercar

While we’ll update this article when / if we heard back from De Tomaso, but the company has previously said the P72 was designed by Jowyn Wong and inspired by the P70. That car was a joint project between Alejandro de Tomaso and Carroll Shelby. The partnership frayed and was eventually dissolved “on the eve of the car’s completion.” De Tomaso pressed forward with development and tapped Ghia to help him complete it. The finished model was eventually displayed at the 1965 Turin Motor Show as the Ghia-De Tomaso Sport 5000.

Update: De Tomaso’s Official Response

De Tomaso said they normally would not comment on such a matter, but felt it was “important to again clearly state that our inspiration for the P72 was the De Tomaso Sport Prototypes of the 1960’s. These included the Sport 1000, Sport 2000, Sport 5000 and P70.”

The company also shared comments by Peter Brock, who designed the original P70. According to him, “When I was told this new De Tomaso is an ‘homage’ to my P70 Sports racer I was honored. I had no idea my concept from the mid ‘60s would in any way be influential to a car being presented today. My first impressions of the new De Tomaso are all so positive I hardly know where to begin. The exterior form is so well done it invites you to keep walking around, admiring every subtle detail. In this day of modern super GT’s it’s difficult to stand out for more than a short time. With its design, engineering and technical specifications I think this De Tomaso P72 will set a new standard.”

The company also provided us with a sketch showing the P72’s lineage, while saying “The Glickenhaus’s are certainly entitled to their opinion and we truly wish them nothing but great success for the future.”

 

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  • 2PacOfCarscoop

    nah mate, he is drunk..

  • Bob

    I wish he didn’t make this comparison, I quite liked the P4/5 but it really looks unflattering next to this De Tomaso. I’m pitching tents like a pre-teen boy scout here.

  • chris

    yikes 💀

  • It’s not like Glickenhaus has any right to this body style. It’s clearly inspired by 60’s LeMans cars.. and so was Glick’s.

    • donald seymour

      And they both did their modern interpretation of it and they both did a great job at executing it. At this moment he should be embracing the homage rather than trying to tear down the car.

    • Jason Panamera

      And it seems like P4/5 was inspired by P70.

      • Shelby GT500

        It was inspired by Ferrari P3/4

  • Kannag Don Amenra

    Silly!

  • It’s not like both cars were original designs. Just the Timing is bad for DeTomaso. They are two versions of the same inspiration. Sure my parents wouldn’t know wich is wich… But for them a Bentley and a Lincoln Continental are the same, have a red Lambo and it’s a Ferrari. ..
    The DeTomaso looks better to me. But who cares, it’s not lile I’ll buy either .

  • Gustavo Adriano

    Ferrari is ugly next to De Tomasso, Glick is thinking that he’s the king of design. I feel pitty for him.

  • Mr. EP9

    I like both, but the DeTomaso makes the P4/5 look ugly by comparison.

  • Six Thousand Times

    Called it!

  • Thetruthísntalwayspopular

    Lol What an asshat. They are both hideously ill proportioned pieces of crap.

  • Norman Choi, the owner of both Apollo and De Tomaso car lines, came up and started talking to me last year. I was like , why are you approaching ME!? Then asked him for a ride in the Intensa Emozione. he said only he is the passenger, alongside pro driver. 🙁

  • MatTa Ddor

    DeTomaso
    owner by Chinese group. what a surprise

  • Eric

    A pox on both your houses. The Glickenhaus isn’t exactly beautiful, and the DeTomaso is inflated and heavy-handed. Those side air inlets are the clumsiest things I’ve seen since the Murciéalgo’s headlights.

  • Bash
  • Benoît Etienne

    “‘Copy:a thing made to be similar or identical to another’”-Jesse Glickenhaus <<<— you mean like your car copying a ferrari?
    This car is a modern take on a detomaso ancestor Ghia-De Tomaso Sport 5000. I don't really know who is copying who here…. Glickenhaus can shove their comment where the sun doesn't shine IMHO https://media1.giphy.com/media/4Hvhl4bUjRX3ncotI0/giphy.gif

    • Eric

      Glickenhaus was always very open about his car being a tribute/continuation of the Ferrari P3/4.

    • Matteo Tommasi

      Glickenhaus’ P3/4 IS a Ferrari, and the P4/5 is officially recognised by Ferrari. So he’s right

  • ZYGIUS

    Its sad when old people dont know history and heritage and post bulshit on Twitter…

    1965 De Tomasso Sport 1000:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/00f82870e8011bf969b8ee550710ee97813c91665eff33bd8bba2682beb61fc0.jpg

  • Yilmaz Yasar

    Many oldschool superspor car has a similar roundy design but he absolutely right about de tomaso stole interior from pagani

  • disqus_83g6mJmr6l

    This car looks even better then Pininfarina’s effort,which is definitely NOT an easy task.the p4/5 is gorgeous & still outright sexy but the de-tomaso is…….sublime!

  • Oji

    Henry royce: Take the best that exists and make it better

  • Six_Tymes

    Well, hes not wrong. it does look almost exactly the same. De Tomaso copied and perfected the design. Shame we are living in an era of copy cats, who lack original design skills. China made that common place. I hope Glickenhaus and Ferrari has copy rights or patented their design?

    • Matteo Tommasi

      Every Ferrari design is patented.

  • Sean Sweeney
    • Shelby GT500

      The thing is that P72 is actually more similar to p4/5 than to this…

  • Sean Sweeney
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    • Porkopolis

      This is AMAZING without that damn rose gold chrome.

  • ctk4949

    The De Tomaso is nice, except for all that bronze crap!!

  • Sinisa Janko

    James Glickenhaus, who would copy any of your hideous designs in his right mind? Probably the ugliest racing cars of all time. You wish to have something like De Tomaso, especially in the interior. Little too much bling for De Tomaso, but otherwise awesome.

  • DMax

    Chinese are doing what they’re known for best. It doesn’t even look like the old DeTomaso P70 or sport 5000 or 1000. It looks like a modern interpretation of Ferrari 330 P4 on which the P4/5 is based.

  • nik

    Excellent response to Glickenhaus – they handled it with class!

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  • Porkopolis

    Many historic racecars have a similar, somewhat generic design. If Glickenhaus called them out for anything it should’ve been the ugly rose gold chrome and the wheels.

  • J Cleave

    Take a look at Glickenhaus’ absolute ripoff of a Shelby Daytona Coupe they call a 006 retro coupe, then explain what right Jim has to complain about stealing designs.

  • Saul Till

    It’s really striking looking. I’ve not seen anything as curved and smooth as this in a long time and it really does draw the eye.
    I still don’t know if I like it or if it’s a bit too much, but it’s more consistent in its design aesthetic than the p4/5 – the bodywork all over is curved and flowing, without those horrible air-flow gaps and holes that most supercars have. And the p4/5, even though it was cool-looking, did look slightly like two cars mashed together front and back.

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