Gas Prices Set To Soar As Attack On Saudi Arabia Knocks Out 5% Of Global Oil Production

Drivers could soon feel more pain at the pump as an attack on oil fields in Saudi Arabia has forced the kingdom to cut production by 50%.

The cuts mean there will be 5.7 million less barrels of crude oil produced every day and this represents more than five percent of global daily production. Given this dramatic decrease, NBC reports brent crude futures climbed by 19.5% to $71.95 (£57.92 / €65.40) per barrel. That’s the biggest spike seen since the Gulf War.

The attack occurred this weekend and targeted Saudi Aramco facilities in Abqaiq and Khurais. The extent of the damage remains unclear, but the company’s President and CEO, Amin H. Nasser, said they’ve already begun working to repair the damage and restore production. The company also noted the sites were hit by “projectiles,” but confirmed no one was injured in the attack.

In response to the attacks, President Trump announced he has authorized the release of oil from the government’s strategic petroleum reserve. This will only occur “if need” and “in a to-be-determined amount sufficient to keep the markets well-supplied.” The president also announced plans to speed up the approval process for oil pipelines in Texas and several other states.

Despite Trump’s announcement, Americans can still expect gas prices to climb. According to AAA spokesperson Jeanette Casselano, gas prices will likely increase this week and could climb as much as “a quarter per gallon throughout this month.”

On the bright side, AAA noted the United States has become less dependent on oil imported from Saudi Arabia. Citing data from the Energy Information Administration, the organization says imports fell from 35,600 barrels per day in first half of 2017 to 18,000 barrels per day in the first half of this year. This should help to further minimize the impacts of the attacks on consumers.

Yemeni Houthi rebels have claimed responsibility for the attack, but that has been meet with skepticism. As Reuters reported, Colonel Turki al-Malki said “The preliminary results show that the weapons [used in the attack] are Iranian and we are currently working to determine the location” were they were launched from. He added, the attack did not originate from Yemen as claimed by the rebels.

Furthermore, President Trump tweeted “There is reason to believe that we know the culprit” and “are locked and loaded depending on verification.” Officials in the administration have blamed Iran, but the country has denied this. However, Trump said country also claimed a U.S. drone was shot down in their airspace “when, in fact, it was nowhere close.”

 

  • Ben
    • Mike anonymous

      I find this funny because the majority of electric vehicle (including the Teslas’ and the majority of the Supercharger network) are based on electricity, generated by a generator, that runs on the same oil most vehicles are using, & that electric vehicles and EV manufactures (directly or indirectly) support.

      (I am not entirely sure how Tesla would respond given the situation considering the following)
      Also Note this is the same reason why many supporters of ‘big-oil‘ are now supporters of ‘big-electric‘, at the end of the day; at least 90% ‘big-electric‘ is powered by ‘big-oil‘. Likely the very same reason hydrogen is not supported the same way EVs’ are, mainly because hydrogen is far better environmentally, range-wise, safety-wise (depending on battery protection and quality), and economically, than electric+battery vehicles. The problem is; It’s a bit hard to make money off of something that is more abundant than the water you bathe with as (in a monatomic form) it is the most abundant chemical substance in the Universe.

      Also note you can have both both ICE and Electric-Motor based Hydrogen vehicles. Yes,.. that’s right, it is possible for you to get hydrogen in a manual too.

      And lastly… LOOK AT THAT ADORABLE GIF!.

      • Ben

        I really need to do more homework on hydrogen vehicles. I was looking forward to them, but it seems they just hit a stall and everyone said they were vaporware. I’m off to research!

        • Bubba Fett

          The biggest problem is storing hydrogen, which can leak through sealed metal containers.

          • Mike anonymous

            I was going to say the biggest problem would have been infrastructure. Overall I think Nano-Flow-Cell would be a technology to invest in, in regards to alternative methods of getting around (not monetarily, but rather environmentally).

            But as the problem used to be with EVs infrastructure and range anxiety, many alternatives would seem to suffer the same hurdles before growing to the scale of EVs’ today.

      • TheBelltower

        Your statistics are completely wrong, so perhaps you want to double check your work before posting. Hydrogen is not going to happen because no one wants it and the technology is not ready. In spite of some automakers and anti-EV groups using Hydrogen as a distraction, no one is investing in hydrogen in any meaningful way. You sound really determined to support vehicles that rely on fuel companies that sell tanks of stuff. Anyone who owns an EV has moved beyond that concept.

        • Mike anonymous

          I have double checked the work, & Trust me, I understand the engineering, manufacturing, and overall environmental effects on both sides of the coin, having directly worked in engineering, science, and the following topics. Hydrogen & many other vehicle technology have been around for nearly 50+/70+ (and even 100+) years.

          To My knowledge, based on what you’ve stated so far; I believe your understanding of what an ‘EV’ is, is a bit misunderstood considering you can have Hydrogen powered ICE vehicles AND Hydrogen Powered EVs’. There are a vast amount of ways you can Power and EV and generate electricity. So hopefully this post will better educate and inform yourself as well as others, on how these things work in addition to my own opinions on the matter as a whole.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/11dfcedfd27bf9ab93e42c1e8fd61416087f3747b0ca458309236da95efae15f.png

          The reason EVs’ are called such, are not because of the power, but rather the propulsion of the vehicle… they are powered by Electric Motors. I fully support electric motors, but it is what they are powered by that makes a difference. There are many kinds of EV’s such as; Water-Powered EV’s, NanoFlowCell EV’s, Hydrogen EV’s, Gasoline-Powered EV’s, Battery-Electric EV’s, and more. Any ‘Fuel’ Source that (from Water to Nuclear) can produce energy for an electric-motor.

          …No one is investing in hydrogen in any meaningful way You sound really determined to support vehicles that rely on fuel companies that sell tanks of stuff.

          You Also may want to recheck Your definition on what fuel ‘is’. You stated the word ‘fuel’ and it is important when understanding science to not confuse ‘fuel’ with ‘oil’ or ‘coal’ and most everything in nature runs on ‘fuel’ of some kind. The body is powered by Food & drink used to created energy from chemicals. The Leaves of the trees are powered by the ‘fuel of photons’ from the sun.

          (Also Note my previous statement regarding the lack of investment in my prior post. This lack of investment which you have also stated is due to the fact many companies can not generate proper returns. implying that (gaining or saving) this; 💵 is a bit more important to many than this; 🌏.)

          ————

          My Expectations for the day had not been to provide a lecture on the science of energy itself, but it should be notes that energy is either stored, or it is transferred.

          Do note that electricity is not a ‘type-of-energy’, and is rather a form in which energy can be held.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b31c7861ddfec22c2e498dd6821419a63fe78978ac3daa66cf18c5141be4ff75.png

          In regards to ICE (Internal Combustion Engines), and Electric-Engines/Motors (Electrically Powered Engines/Motors), It is a simple difference in the way energy (in it’s many forms) is used to create propulsion.

          In the case of internal combustion, the energy used from the chemical combustion of two or more chemicals is used to generate movement (in some-cases used to directly turn a drive shaft in most ICE vehicles, or to even power a motor to generate electricity).

          In the case of Electrically Powered Engines/Motors, this is a motor powered by the energy held within electrons. This motor can be used to turn a driveshaft, or to directly tun the wheels of a vehicle themselves.

          It is also to be noted that Gasoline-powered-EVs’ do exist, typically this is paired with a system that will also allow the user to fuel their vehicle through electron-energy (electric as well); This is what is know as a “Plug-In-Hybrid” (even though the phrase and naming shouldn’t be that based on the science behind the technology) which I am sure yourself and many others have likely heard of.

          In my personal opinion a reliance on fuel generated through environmentally-harmful recourses such as Gasoline/coal/etc-electric-energy, is something as a whole we should move away from, but a clear understanding of how this technology works is important in understanding how to do so properly.

          ————

          A Battery is a type of Tank, & Tanks hold a similar purpose; to store fuel (and remember as I stated before, fuel can be anything from electron-energy, to water).

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b4aa5b67901ac5a2e3d640ab77da6bed4159b4e1002fc105cf8faadfffc5200d.png

          It is important to remember that fuel is by definition “Something consumed to produce energy, especially. Therefore it does not matter much wether your vehicles is an ICE, or an EV,… what matters most is; the fuel (be it energy stored within electrons, to energy ‘produced’ by a chemical combustion) that POWERS said ‘powertrain’ (which is also why it is called a ‘powertrain’), AND the ‘tank’ in which that fuel is stored. I Personally am a supporter of ALL environmentally-friendly & environmentally-beneficial powertrains and fuel-types (including electricity).

          This brings me to my main point and why I am not personally the biggest fan of SPECIFICALLY Litium-Ion-Battery-Tanks used to store Electron Energy.

          ————

          Now I am sure I do not need to go into what a “Litium Ion Battery/Electrical-Energy-Tank” is considering one understand what an ‘Ion’ is, what ‘lithium is’, and what a ‘Battery/Electrical-Energy-Tank’ is.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c228eefc7e196c005e9a0bd41a780376bfb0dfbcd04509794184bcf3073ae22.png

          Problem #1: Lithium & The Mining Of It.
          I am sure you are able to go an do research on what Lithium is and the environmentally harmful methods used to obtain it, but it is also (the way it is used within battery/battery-tank technology) harmful to the environment after its’ use has been depleted.

          Problem #2: Majority Of Energy Produced Is Not Clean Energy.
          Most everything from the light-bulbs in your home, to your Battery-EVs, use electrical energy which has been produced as a by-product of coal, gasoline/oil, and highly toxic methods of electricity production. Shown below is a graph of the energy statistics within the UnitedStates, consider that these same standards may not be held (if not are worse) in other areas of the world.

          Problem #3: Why Many Supporters of ‘Big-Oil’ are also large supporters of ‘Big-Electric’/‘lithium-ion-battery-industry’.
          The Main reasons Many supporters of ‘Big-Oil’ are also supporters of ‘Big-Electric’ or more specifically the ‘lithium-ion-battery-industry’ (Now I do not want to single out Tesla, as there are many others; but they are of the largest battery manufacturers on the planet. Their primary business is making batteries as a battery supplier, NOT vehicles. During the 2000s’ they were the primary battery supplier for companies such as Mercedes-Benz and many others… Why do you believe they are building ‘Gigafactories’ for? Their core technology and business being based around Lithium-Ion-Batteries.). Due to the fact very little investment is being put into alternative forms of energy generation, the majority of energy production comes from oil, gas, and nuclear.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/913ceed70f46bf164d454809247c82d8bbaf33eed04f1c4653c4051f25a11ae4.png

          ‘Big-Electric’ & the ‘lithium-ion-battery-industry’ refers to the fact that most of the companies, can make money mostly environmentally-harmful methods generation of electricity, charge you (what they may please) for that electricity, and costs on the transportation of fuel as electricity can simply be conducted from one place to another. In the end, the same ‘Big-Oil’, ‘Big-Coal’, & ‘Big-Nuclear’, simply are able to make more money with less effort, doing what they already had been doing previously.

          Now note that I am not here to get into a debate regarding the aforementioned, but as the following should be noted:

          ————

          MY ORIGINAL POINT & STATEMENT : THE SOLUTIONS TO A PROBLEM.

          I am personally a fan of all powertrains and vehicle types, As I have stated in the past; “I LOVE cars”. But I am overall not going to turn a blind eye and support the problems within the automotive-industry OR energy industries as a whole at hand.

          It is important to know and research what you talk about and what you speak on. In my case it is a small aspect of my current profession.

          What many companies know and understand (but do not want to admit), is that the ‘power’ does not lay with them, but rather instead with yourself, myself,.. in the hands of people across the world. There are better alternatives and solutions to the current situation that go far beyond. It simply would take greater awareness and proper understanding of the technology & systems being used, to make a or difference…

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c1a229bca0a689c039f9eb9ee50ca1d6da913538f4f76c58fbb46e8328e875a.png

          … & There are a lot of scientists engineers who have developed and have been developing technologies to further push us in the right direction. People who are working hard and who dedicated their lives to providing solutions in all forms form many things. While it may be up to them to create, it is also up to you to be informed through your own research and knowledge, opposed to the ‘word’ of someone else.

          Therefore, with all said; In My personal opinion and experience, A little bit of knowledge & understanding can go a long way.

          ————

          P.S. (@TheBelltower:disqus Hopefully this has helped you in understanding my primary reasons for my support of alternative sources of fuel (be from electricity to water and from hydrogen to photon(solar). I am also tagging yourself here @BendoRS:disqus As I am sure you may also want to read through this if you have the time. Also I see the both of you around ‘here’ quite a lot, and you 2 seem to be greatly educated, respectable, and quite cool people, so understand this was not meant to upset, be-rude, or offend, but merely to share and inform. Have an awesome day you 2 👍).

          • TheBelltower

            I actually read all of that. Thank you for correcting your misstatement regarding the the percentages of types of electricity production.

            When I say EV, I generally mean full BEV and not a hybrid or other PHEV. I’m not a fan of vehicles that need both electric and gas drivetrains.

            When I say “gas,” I mean oil produced, water produced, natural gas or anything other than electricity that requires a holding tank.

            When I say “fuel,” that’s to say, anything that propels a vehicle forward. So electricity or gas.

            While you may technically be correct, no one refers a battery pack in an EV as a “tank” in the same way as a gas tank.

            Your “Problem #1”
            Yes Lithium battery production is dirty. Extracting stuff from the earth is always dirty. Then transporting raw materials, refining, producing the final product, then finally the application and use of the product is definitely a filthy process. My family is in the oil business, and the production of lithium batteries is nothing compared to the logistics and production of gas and the other fluids necessary for an ICE vehicle. Besides, the production of lithium batteries is a one-time hit, while an ICE vehicle needs oil/gas/fluids constantly over the life of the car. Battery packs last for over 300,000 miles and are then recycled, which is less dirty and lowers the cost for automakers. Gas can’t be recycled. I’m not against oil at all, but it’s comical when people look closely at lithium production while overlooking the entire ongoing process (extraction/global transportation/refining/land transportation/gas station construction,real estate,operation/ final use) that puts gas and other fluids in the tanks of an ICE vehicle. Yes, I understand that comparing the production of an EV to the production of the fuel that goes into an ICE vehicle isn’t exactly apples-to-apples. We all know that the production of an EV is more environmentally taxing than that of an ICE car. So I guess you could say that ICE vehicles are more environmentally friendly, until you start driving them. FWIW, painting a car, or the leather within the interior of a car is much more toxic than the production of lithium for an EV. I haven’t heard of an outcry demanding paintless cars, or vegan cars. That’s because there’s a concerted effort to steer people’s attention toward the dirtiness of lithium production, and not other parts of the process. I haven’t seen a real comparison that takes into account the complete logistic chain of oil/gas, but I would bet that several tanks of octane would surpass the dirtiness of the production of one EV battery pack.

            Your “Problem #2 Majority Of Energy Produced Is Not Clean Energy”

            But a lot of it is clean, and getting cleaner over the past several decades. In NY, it’s a combo of Nuclear/Hydro/Natural Gas. Of the three Tesla owners on my block on Long Island, two homes have solar that covers most of their usage. Sometimes they even get a refund back from PSEG. I don’t use solar because I need to finish a renovation before I start the long process of getting solar panels. But it’s in the plan. I’m also waiting for a Tesla powerwall to arrive… which is full of filthy lithium batteries. I’d also be interested in knowing how many KwHr of electricity goes into the entire process that nets one tank of fuel that’s in the ground at a gas station. I can’t even imagine how much, but it must be an enormous amount of electricity to produce fuel.

            I’d also be interested in finding a study that compares the efficiency of single-source natural gas or coal method of of electricity production that propels 100 EVs, alongside the efficiency of a 100 ICE vehicles each consuming their own fuel to propel the car. I strongly suspect that the process of having one source of energy for many vehicles (energy production/vehicle storage/use) is more efficient than each vehicle (vehicle storage/energy production/use) having their own.

            Your Problem #3 “Why Many Supporters of ‘Big-Oil’ are also large supporters of ‘Big-Electric’/‘lithium-ion-battery-industry”

            I don’t know that it’s true that they are the “same supporters.” Regardless, I’m not against big industry. I’m not even against big-oil. It takes large industries to accommodate the needs of millions of people. Though it’s pretty clear that the oil industry sees the evolution of the battery as a threat. Even though every device we use operates with batteries, it wasn’t until the successful 2nd generation of the Prius when heard horror stories about battery production. No one was complaining about lithium just yet because it was still only common in small consumer products, and the Prius used old fashioned nickel metal hydride for their battery packs. We were fed misinformation about the hybrid cars, claiming that they are less efficient than a Hummer. Which is partly true only if you leave out important information. As the remaining Koch brother knows, compelling propaganda is rarely an outright lie.

            My issue with hydrogen is that it continues the same process as with conventional oil. The energy required for the production of hydrogen isn’t “there yet” and the fueling network necessary is enormous. People are clamoring to sell you a tank of expensive stuff, which is why hydrogen is appealing to some industries. I’m a huge fan of EV’s because the “fueling” network can simply be a dryer plug in your garage or a charger at the back of a parking lot that is accessible to an existing high voltage line.

            Anyway, thanks for the chat.

          • Mike anonymous

            Your very welcome for the clarification. I am glad that you’re able to reply respectfully regarding the topic which is something I greatly can respect.

            I also wanted to mention (after reading the post I am currently replying to of yours) that The production of oil based/powered ICEs or EVs (or specifically ICEs which you have mentioned) overall cause more damage than to the environment per-vehicle, but I was referring firstly to the fact that the same oil (coal, etc) you are referring to is also used to generate electricity which is then used to power BEVs.

            My original point being that the fuel used to produce the electricity, is still either oil, or coal, etc. Although with that said it is good to hear that you are doing your own part, ‘but’ you would be within the minority of people at least within the US who are able to switch to natural (and more environmentally friendly) sources of energy production.

            “I haven’t seen a real comparison that takes into account the complete logistic chain of oil/gas, but I would bet that several tanks of octane would surpass the dirtiness of the production of one EV battery pack”

            Also in regards to this I did want to state that (again) there are other types of ICEs’ and (hydrogen, water, etc) which the production of would be far less impactful to, if not beneficial for, the environment. I am sure you understand that I am referring to a different fuel source for both ICE ‘and’ Electric Vehicles. Now it would be far more clean to use a ‘standard-tank’ within both an ICE-V or EV fueled by either; water, hydrogen, Nano-Flow-Cell, or other alternatives to oil itself.

            I’d also be interested in finding a study that compares the efficiency of single-source natural gas or coal method of of electricity production that propels 100 EVs, alongside the efficiency of a 100 ICE vehicles each consuming their own fuel to propel the car

            In regards to this statement, it would simply come down to the weight and aerodynamics of the vehicle, the efficiency of the engine/motor, and the size of the tank. Most ‘hydrogen’ vehicles can compete directly with most of the best EVs today, (Nano-Flow-Cell vehicles can go even further up to about 500+ miles).

            My issue with hydrogen is that it continues the same process as with conventional oil. The energy required for the production of hydrogen isn’t “there yet” and the fueling network necessary is enormous. People are clamoring to sell you a tank of expensive stuff, which is why hydrogen is appealing to some industries. I’m a huge fan of EV’s because the “fueling” network can simply be a dryer plug in your garage or a charger at the back of a parking lot that is accessible to an existing high voltage line.

            You are right, that is a bit of my point (and by process I presume you mean the fact you have to ‘fill-up’ somewhere). While the technology is there, the infrastructure (which I think is what you may be referring to) is not there. Paying to fill-up for fuel of any kind can be a great deal, and the ease of use of simply ‘adding it to the bill’ and ‘plugging-in’ can be greatly appreciated, although overall I would still prefer alternative EVs or (non-oil-based/powered) ICEs, over most BEVs. But, I absolutely understand your reasoning. It all comes down to what is best for you, what you care most about, and what it is you are able to do.

            Either-way I read through your post as well, so you are very welcome again for the chat and clarification. And thank you for clarifying what you meant by certain things as well.

  • charlotteharry57

    I’ve heard anywhere from $0.10 to $0.50 per gallon. Not enough to make full-size pickup and SUV owners cringe. Yet.

  • EyalN

    Kia should bring the picanto to American with the new gas prices.
    Ford’s idea to stop selling cars was a really bad idea.

  • Puddingpopper

    world war is huge for the economy

    • Porkopolis

      WWIII is already ongoing, and a big kinetic fight won’t be necessary. WWIII is primarily Information Warfare/ Psychological Operations.

      • Puddingpopper

        i guess it is resulting in a body count, eh Mr. Zuckerberg?

        • SteersUright

          Not yet, but he’s not totally wrong. Increasing misinformation and confusion of the masses in the world’s largest Western countries can ultimately increase global tensions and lead to violence. Trump is not all that far off from attacking Iran nor is he letting up on China anytime soon. Russia will always be in the mix trying to destabilize the USA and its western allies via technological warfare. The risk to life and limb may not be too far removed if these destabilizing actions from bad actors arent nipped in the bud immediately.

          • Porkopolis

            I don’t think it that dire. Just a few more data points need sweeping up, so to speak.

        • Porkopolis

          No need for messy body counts when you have control.

  • Aeromann

    It’s time for B.Salmane to ask for peace.

  • Jay

    Time to stock up.

    • brn

      Filled my tank last week.

  • well that’s one way for iran to fix their economy…

    sense we don’t get much if any fuel from there this might mainly impact asia and europe more so then us.

    • TheBelltower

      Something that happens to the global supply of oil changes the price for everyone.

      • yes, but with higher prices overall comes more profit for iran

        • TheBelltower

          Yep.

        • Joff

          Which is a good thing I might add

  • Paul

    It looks like the media is in to scare tactics again.

    • AintYerPa

      Always. And from the same people who have come down with TDS no less… Coincidence? I think not!

    • Paulbe

      Again? Did they ever stop?

  • 85ZingoGTR

    A quarter per gallon?? My god the sky is falling. I remember when gas spiked a full $4 a gallon back under GWBs watch.

  • thejohnnycanuck

    Well you know what they say, that everyone needs a hobby.

    I just really wish the Middle East would find another one.

    • SteersUright

      The day the (western) world comes together, cares more and demands the end of monarchies, dictatorships, corruption, tyrants, etc. is the day you see more democracies in the middle east and citizens with middle-class “hobbies”.

      • getoffme

        Ironic. America is corrupt. The government spend money they do not have.

    • Thetruthísntalwayspopular

      They have one. Islam. Oh er…

    • 85ZingoGTR

      Flying carpets. Or do those run on oil too?

  • AintYerPa

    Considering the fact that the US is currently the #1 Energy producer in the world, I don’t see prices here being affected much if at all here in the US.. Beyond that the EU gets most of its oil from Russia… So… Yeah.

    As @disqus_IH90989JUS:disqus already said: Media Scare Tactics.

    • brn

      Price goes up anywhere, price goes up everywhere.

      The only good news is more profits for US producers.

      • AintYerPa

        So if the price of something we have in abundance goes up in, say, Timbuktu, prices rise here? Uhh… Ok. Thanks for the economics lesson there, Chief.

        • brn

          Sales are international, chief.

          • AintYerPa

            Sometimes… not always (More brilliant economic guidance, btw…) But let’s say you are right – how, exactly, does that prove your first nugget of wisdom?

          • brn

            You don’t care about having an actual conversation. Keep the insults up and enjoy yourself.

          • AintYerPa

            I apologize. When you hit me back with your “chief” i thought we could hang like that. I was obviously wrong…

            I really am curious to see what you think though – And how you would back up your argument…

          • brn

            All is good.

            Today has been a long and difficult day. I’m exhausted and more than not in a mood to think about international economics. Let’s catch up in the next discussion.

            Seriously, if we met over a beer, I think we’d discover we’re not that far apart.

          • AintYerPa

            I suspect you’re right. And go have a beer for me and give ’em heck tommorow! 🙂

  • Mr. EP9

    Scare tactics aside, if gas goes back up maybe that’ll take a few CUVs and SUVs off the road.

    ….nah, that ain’t happening.

    • SteersUright

      Good point. And it certainly would affect sales of gas guzzlers but only if the prices stay high for over a year or more. If its just a temporary bump it’ll mostly just be annoying and inconvenient.

  • Thetruthísntalwayspopular

    “soar” really? GOd the media is a piece of s h I t

    • Dylan Wentworth

      Yeah, I’m really tired of seeing the word soar being used. It’s not accurate and it’s sensationalism like that that causes shortages and panic.

    • Emoto

      Not to mention that oil jumped a little in price yesterday, but is now down 5 cents today, so yeah, not soaring.

  • Bubba Fett

    Crap like this is why the US needs to be 100% energy independent.

    • Dylan Wentworth

      Crap like this is why we need to migrate to EVs
      And I say this as someone with a truck that averaging 12mpg.

      • Bonzomatic

        We will never be able to create enough batteries to support that.

        • Dylan Wentworth

          You have to think positively.

          • Bonzomatic

            How will thinking positively create enough lithium to make enough batteries to replace all of the fuel powered vehicles?

          • Dylan Wentworth

            I don’t know.
            People are always telling me to think positively so I’m just repeating that.

          • Bonzomatic

            So you can’t think for yourself?

          • Dylan Wentworth

            That’s just the thing. I think that I’m being positive and they they are the ones being pessimistic by interpreting my language negatively.

        • HD

          Bollocks, we can and we will.

  • Bonzomatic

    So gas prices should only go up 5%, right?

  • getoffme

    100% CO2 emmission right there.

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