2020 Mercedes S-Class To Be Hybrid-Only, Electric EQ S To Use A Different Platform

Mercedes is reportedly developing the next-generation S-Class as a hybrid-only model, with a range of different powertrains on offer, paving the way for the all-electric EQ S.

Autocar reports that the seventh generation of the S-Class will be capable of driving up to 62 miles (100km) on electricity alone, as well as feature a brand new 4Matic all-wheel drive system with a fully variable torque split between the axles.

Mercedes is going to use the latest 3.0-liter and 2.9-liter straight-six petrol and diesel engines for its new hybrid powertrains, as well as the AMG-developed 4.0-liter V8.

The new S-Class is expected to use an updated version of the MRA platform and be sold exclusively in long-wheelbase format in order to create more breathing room between itself and the E-Class.

The all-electric EQ S, on the other hand, will become the company’s first model to use the new, EV-exclusive MEA platform, which was designed from scratch to take advantage of the different packaging that comes with electric motors and battery packs.

The electric flagship will be powered by two motors, one on each axle. Power levels are expected to be greater than those in the 400hp EQ C, with Mercedes even planning an AMG version with over 600hp. The automaker also targets a driving range of over 310 miles (500km).

Despite riding on different platforms, the upcoming S-Class and the EQ S will share the same active suspension, which is an evolution of the existing AirMatic+, capable of working together with a 48-volt system and a stereo camera that scans the road ahead.

Mercedes is expected to launch the new S-Class late this year, with the all-electric EQ S to hit the market in 2022.

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  • SpongeBob99Swell

    Welcome to the future of engineering, newbies…

    • Six Thousand Times

      Really the future of marketing. Silly engineering.

  • Dude

    That’s the kind of bold-ish move I’ve been wanting to see from a more mainstream automaker for years. Especially if the model is lower volume because why not? Acura and Volvo have some awesome electrified powertrains so I see no downside to the RLX or XC90 doing this. Though what I really want to see is something extra radical. Like Nissan comes out and makes their entire sedan lineup hybrid.

    Also I wonder why they put covers over the door handles. Never seen camo like that.

    • Matt

      My guess is to disguise whether the new S will have regular or pop-out door handles.

  • B.Stokes

    Never thought I’d be so excited about all these future hybrid and electric cars coming out but I am. The quest for the new daily driver is going to be awesome. I’ll save the petrol engine for my sports car.

  • Six Thousand Times

    Twice the weight, cost and complication for very modest gains. “Hybrids” just don’t make engineering sense. Marketing sense, though.

    • Dude

      I’m only a software engineer, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that hybridization isn’t going to double the weight and cost of the already $100k, 5000lb S Class. Especially since this is a new, hybrid only platform (current one is 5 years old)

      • Six Thousand Times

        Double the cost, weight, and complexity of the powertrain (by adding a second one) not the entire car. I don’t imagine software engineers face such problems. 🙂

        • Dude

          Probably not but we are good at math. Hybridization is not going to double the weight and cost of even just the powertrain of a car with a $10k, 600lb+ engine. I don’t know of any hybrid where that’s ever happened. The Honda Insight, e.g., weighs only 200lbs more than the lightest Civic (while making only 7hp less). Not sure where you’re pulling the doubling idea from.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Two separate powerplants lashed together doing the job of one. In order to keep the weight of a specialty car like the Insight down means more expensive lightweighting (I know that isn’t really a word.). And still 7 fewer hours? No, thanks.

          • Dude

            “expensive lightweighting”? The differences between the Insight and Civic are on Honda’s website if you want to see lol. The only structural material change is the aluminum hood. Other than that it’s just a revised suspension and reinforced floor for the battery. They share a platform and are built in the same factory so they’re not going to be very different. And yes, it’s a 13% decrease in power (worst case vs turbo) for a 30% increase in efficiency. That’s a setup that appeals to many people. It’s not for everyone and that’s fine but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t make “engineering sense”.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Again, the matter is of two separate powerplants doing the job of one with the attendant additional weight, complexity, and cost (I won’t say double here but for the new NSX the weight penalty is reportedly 300kg.) Either go all electric or stick with an ICE but don’t go with both and call it a “hybrid.” That does not make engineering sense.

          • Dude

            Because it uses two motors? That’s why it doesn’t make sense? What? The goal: increase efficiency of and ICE car, because not everyone’s ready to go electric. Solution: add an electric motor. It works and automakers have gotten good at doing it without adding too much weight or cost and keeping reliability. If it didn’t work, automakers wouldn’t make them. It makes complete sense.

            And you have to keep context in mind. The NSX GT3 does away with the electric motors because it’s a carbon fiber race car. The standard NSX is meant to be a daily supercar. You get double the fuel economy and less noise when you drive to the store compared to an R8 or 570s but the same power when you want fun.

          • Six Thousand Times

            And the car’s 300kg heavier and $75,000 too expensive for whatever modest gains may be had. That’s why they don’t sell. “Hybrids” aren’t worth it but don’t let me tell you how to spend your money.

          • Dude

            There’s many reasons why the NSX doesn’t sell but the powertrain is one of the last on the list. The performance is well in line with the price. If you want sub 3 sec 0-60 for $75k less ($82k) you’ll have to wait for a used P100D.

            I totally understand why hybrids are questionable from an enthusiast’s standpoint, but from an engineering (use of that word is what caught my eye) perspective they certainly make sense. And as much as I’d like to, I won’t be spending my money on a hybrid unless Toyota makes the GR HV

          • Six Thousand Times

            Using two tools to do the job of one is just basic bad engineering form.

          • Dude

            Where did you learn that lol? My understanding from education and practice is that solutions are not always simple. Combining two or more systems can be a good way to solve an issue. Complexity is always considered in engineering (you wouldn’t use two kinds of hammers to put in a nail) but it seems… prejudiced, in a way, to go by that alone. Volvo’s 400hp T8 powertrain is expensive and poorly implemented while the Prius is one of the most reliable and efficient cars on the road. On the NA ICE side Honda’s K20 family has been bulletproof for decades while Fiat’s Fire family has been unreliable for just as long.

            -List that I dicided not to use but will include anyway-
            Using both port and direct injection in an engine gives efficiency greater than port injection alone along and removes the reliability lowering carbon-related issues that come with direct injection. There’s big.Little and Lakefield. The latter combines two different core architectures to allow for an broad range of power and efficiency. Optimus accomplishes a similar task for GPUs. And there are liquid/air GPU cooling solutions that are cheaper and more reliable than full liquid setups and more effective than air alone. Hybrid drives allow for faster boot and launch times while keeping a lower $/gb. Hybrid power systems light cities around the world. The list goes on.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Clearly, I learned it at a better school than the one where you learned to write but no matter. In a stationary powerplant or even something like a ship or a locomotive where there’s plenty of room and money is less of an object, I agree, two or more types of power teams aren’t really a problem. For a car, no. My current car is an ICE but my next one will probably be all-electric. I don’t see wasting my money one two different powerplants to move one car. You don’t agree? Fair enough, I’m still not going to tell you how to spend your money. Is that Prius, really the only “hybrid” to sell in numbers, even lithium- ion yet?

          • Dude

            Clearly? That’s an extremely questionable assumption at best. And first you say hybrids make no sense and now you have some vague issue with my writing? You’re 0 for 2 on making substantial assertions. As I implied earlier, I am not defending hybrids because I like or want to buy them. I am simply questioning your groundless statements. It’s clear that you think hybrid cars don’t make sense conceptually but have given no reason why. “Hybrids are bad because they use two forms of power and that’s bad engineering.” Why? “It’s bad engineering.” Do you have any actual explanation?

            And no, the Prius is not at all the only popular hybrid (in the US or across the world). Nearly as many Fusion Hybrids were sold as the Prius in 2017. If you would like to see more sales figures, or back up any of your statements, Google is a click away.

          • Six Thousand Times

            I bet you’re one of those guys who just likes to listen to himself talk.

          • Dude

            I’m one of those guys who knows how to have a conversation. But I can see why you might confuse the two. This is what I get for being charitable lol. You obviously have no idea what a troll is. You repeating the same point for a literal week is the only troll-like behavior here. Saying that a common propulsion system makes no sense is a big claim that I wanted an explanation for. If you are unable to give an explanation, that’s fine, but that reflects negatively on you alone. Not me.

  • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    This preposterous government of ours (U.S.) has mandated every automaker must meet federal regulations to make vehicles more greener by 2025, I supposed; most importantly, automakers are force feeding us electric vehicles which I am not really fond of because I am a traditionalist. I like big V-8 engines, rear-wheel drive, and more than 400 horsepower in a gasoline powered engine, not some effeminate, namby-pamby wimp’s car.

    • Kagan

      Well it is much worse over here!

      • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Over where, Kagan?

    • Afi Keita James

      I Know, Get rid of the CAFE Standards period..

    • Dude

      “namby-pamby” Lmao. Ok grandpa, I’ll tell the nurses not to keep the icky girly cars away from you.

      • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Thanks, grandson!

        • Dude

          Shouldn’t you be more worried about writing a will and not the cars no one is making you buy anyway?

          • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Yes, it will all go to my granddaughter, and not you, grandson!

          • Dude

            But what will I do without 5 bucks and a shoestring collection? I really wanted that 5 bucks and shoestring collection…

          • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I will leave you 1-percent of my earnings, grandson.

          • Dude

            5 cents and half a shoelace. Thanks.

          • Navy✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re welcome, grandson!

    • Bobby Lee

      “Get off my ‘more greener’ lawn!”

  • Six Thousand Times

    We’re talking about (roughly) 2s the powerplant, not the entire vehicle.

  • CBV2020

    And if it still has that awful steering column mounted shifter… FAIL! I know someone in the market for a new vehicle and won’t get the S63 AMG just because of the shifter location, can you blame them?

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