Has Toyota Sold Supra’s Soul To Ze Germans? No Way Jose!

The launch of the new Supra is definitely one of the highlights of the year, but Toyota’s long awaited sports car continues to split opinions.

There isn’t much left untold about the fifth-gen Supra. Chances are that, by now, you’ve probably made up your mind about the reborn Japanese performance icon, but Top Gear is here to give you its feedback nevertheless.

What Toyota has done is basically join forces with BMW in order to make the return of the Supra a financially sound move – and the same stands for Munich: without the Supra, a new Z4 was doubtful, so it is a win-win situation for both parties involved.

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Toyota insists that, despite the common underpinnings, the Supra has its own personality and it most definitely isn’t a BMW wearing a JDM costume, which has been the main source of complaints from fans and a number of motoring journalists.

If your go past the fact that the new Supra is indeed using a great deal of German tech, what you’ll end up with is a nimble compact sports car with a very nice straight-six and the will to make its driver smile at almost every occasion. And that, in today’s automotive landscape, is something rare.

The turbocharged 3.0-liter six produces 335hp (340PS) and 368lb-ft (500Nm) of torque and is paired to a smooth and pretty responsive ZF eight-speed automatic transmission. According to official specs, the Supra sprints to 62 mph (100km/h) in 4.3 seconds and hits a top speed of 155mph (250km/h).

So, there are two ways to go about it: you can either scoff at the shared parts and blame Toyota for sullying the revered moniker, or celebrate the fact that the ever-shrinking sports car market is how offering a brand new Supra that’s a really enjoyable performer. The choice is yours.

 

  • So the question I keep asking myself is, how much is Toyota influencing these reviewers to put a positive spin on this rebadged BMW? ?

    • Smith

      That’s hilarious. However, how do you know that the Z4 is not just a badge engineered Toyota Supra chassis with a common powertrain? Neither are build by BMW or by Toyota, so the facts are open for much speculation and would require detailed understanding and evidence of the hours spent by each company on the development of the platform and their own car. Then you can speak with fact as opposed to pure fiction!

      • salamOOn

        “how do you know that the Z4 is not just a badge engineered Toyota Supra chassis with a common powertrain?”

        even if its this way, inside supra its all bmw, you would see this fact every timu you would drive it.

      • Bo Hanan

        Toyota and BMW have made it clear the engine & platform is BMW, the skin is Toyota and it was built in Austria along side the Z4. Where have you been the last 2 years????

    • Bo Hanan

      Agree 100%!
      And have you noticed the reviewers seem to get more cocky with each new review? Almost chiding those who feel Toyota sold out.

    • SpongeBob99Swell

      Stop whining and crying with unoriginal jokes and invalid complaints about Toyota offering an amazing successor to the original at an affordable cost and with an intelligent and practical development strategy by co-development which is best for both parties involved as well as profitable development costs and the economical offset. Toyota and BMW co-developed the platform and engine and then spent years, alone, by themselves, independently, creating their own car with it. At the end of the day, the new Supra has the Toyota badge on it, which means it’s up to Toyota’s standards, which no mere BMW has. If you prefer the MKIV Supra, then good for you because it still exists too. Just try not to get upset about the Yamaha engine and German stick shift optional combo since that might ruin it for you.

      • Doth protest too much. Anyway, yet it doesn’t explain this Franken’ninja Toyota “blessed” us with. ?

        • SpongeBob99Swell

          It does, if you’re aware. Even if Toyota made the whole car from scratch without their partnership with BMW (lol, dumbass can’t even differentiate badge engineering and co-development of a car with another automaker), you weren’t going to buy one anyways. We get it, you wanted Toyota to invest over half a billion dollars in development of another JZ platform that will power one car and will sell in very limited numbers. It would’ve been priced in the $100K range and then you would really be crying.

          • Did you forget to take your meds today, or do you always rant verbosely and hysterically?

  • Smith

    Your headline would seem to indicate Toyota has not sold its Supra soul to Ze Germans, but has sold it to Jose, the Mexican?!

    • Ben

      Tell em’ SMITH!

  • LJ

    The car literally says BMW under the hood.

  • charlotteharry57

    WHY the sudden rash of Supra articles yet again? Can’t wait to see how long we’ll be talking about the C8. Probably 5 years. Nonstop. Great (not).

    • ErnieB

      At least GM built and designed their own product.. Toyota sold out. But you are right.. brace yourselves for a ton of C8 articles.

    • Ben

      Supra articles drag out the detractors and defenders
      Tesla articles drag out the foolishness of consumer pride and ignorant disapproval

      Its a business.

  • BlackPegasus

    So yet another “car review” aimed at convincing loyalists that this Frankenstein’s monster is something other than a financial decision by a bunch a pencil pushers at Toyota. Naw brah , I’ll pass on this nonsense.

    Call me when some actual news about the C8 is out. And I don’t mean another damned rendering ?

  • SteersUright

    Pretty good review.The lack of rear seats firmly positions this as 2nd car & toy. New Supra is certainly an interesting proposition, German or not. I can’t really judge the looks until I see one though. In photos it just doesn’t work for me but, most reviewers seem to like it in person.
    One thing though, like most BMW’s, it just lacks a certain level of attitude, passion, drama and excitement. Something that every great sports car should have. I think its the good, but not outstanding engine sound. The good, but not amazing ZF automatic (vs the truly exciting to use PDK), the solid but not scary performance. You get where I’m going…a proper “M” model with flared out fenders and more thrills could not come soon enough.

  • Alexandro Pietro

    Question is no the case if it is a good supercar…

  • Six_Tymes

    to Summarize, Toyota should have built it themselves. It should have been an all new Toyota, using Toyota parts. If they did, this would have, could have looked so much better. I do have another idea what they could have done, but its just fantasy at this point. In the end, the old adage of “too little, too late” applies to this car. Toyota had too little input, and I think its been released too late in the market.

    • It was never a question of “could they do it,” it was always a question of “how much would it cost” and “how long it would take”. They could have done it themselves but it would have been priced too far out of reach of who they want it to sell to, tuners and the aftermarket crowd.

  • Six Thousand Times

    I’m in category two: I’m glad I can even have one of these in a world where you can’t lose money making crossovers and you can’t make any building sports cars. If Toyota went it alone, we might well end up with the Supra being some kind of “coupe” version of the Highlander. I agree that is isn’t a “proper” Supra but it’s gorgeous, drives well, and can’t be had in “hybrid” form.

    • Danny Boy

      Totally agree!

  • The minute you have to start cursing to prove your point, you’ve lost. Unhinged much? ?

  • Hehehe…why would I want to stop you from embarrassing yourself? ?

  • Netsphere

    yes, yes it did. but they are axis powers so its all good

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