New Honda Civic Type R Reclaims FWD Nurburgring Lap Record

Some four months after the Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport was crowned the ‘Ring King, Honda have stolen the show with their all-new Civic Type R.

The automaker posted a time of 7 minutes and 43.8 seconds, which makes it nearly 5.5 seconds quicker around the iconic track than its German rival, and almost 7 seconds faster than its predecessor.

For the run, Honda used a pre-production model, which is said to have been “technically representative of production specification“.

The car had a full floating roll cage for safety reasons, which did not provide any additional rigidity to the body frame according to Honda, and to compensate for the added weight, the rear seats and Display Audio system were removed. Moreover, the Nurburgring record for front-wheel drive production cars was achieved using street legal, track-focused tires.

The cornering speed achieved in the new Type R is higher because the car features a wider track and tires, a longer wheelbase, a new multi-link suspension in the rear and optimized aerodynamics that improve stability“, commented the lead chassis engineer for the Honda Civic Type R development, Ryuichi Kijima.

Honda’s official gave a good example of proper engineering: “Drivers typically enter the corner after Metzgesfeld at around 150 km/h (93 mph). Even at this medium-speed corner, the speed is around 10 km/h (6mph) higher due to the new Type R’s excellent stability. So, with improved cornering performance, we can increase the speed throughout the lap, helping the new Type R to achieve a much quicker lap time.

Officially presented during the 2017 Geneva Motor Show, the all-new Honda Civic Type R is the first one of its kind to be offered in North America.

It uses a 2.0-liter VTEC turbo engine that churns out 320PS (316hp) and 400Nm (295 lb-ft) of torque, married to a six-speed manual gearbox. The official naught to 100km/h (62mph) time has yet to be released, but it definitely slashes something off its predecessor’s 5.7sec.

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  • Bob

    I think I like what the Porsche guy (and Captain Slow) have been saying about this focus on Nurburgring lap times uber alles. I appreciate a fast Nurburgring time but I prefer my cars to not be great on the ‘ring only to suck on the road.

  • Kaisuke971

    The Mégane 4 RS will be unveiled at Frankfurt, so this record will probably last around 5 months 😀

  • Imjus Sayin

    Great achievement for Honda to capture the N’Ring for FWD production cars, but WTF is up with Honda and F1? Come on Honda, where is that Soichiro spirit of innovation?

  • Well done Honda, I thought this would be impossible.

    Aren’t the cars using the same engine (predecessor and new model)? A 7 second improvement is huge,

    Love Honda but I can’t wait to be stunned by Renault.

    • Infinite1

      Without having one in the U.S. to compare it with, I’m not sure but I have a feeling that it is going to be the same engine, or same variant just with some tweaks here and there to squeeze out a bit more power.

    • pureworx

      yes its the same engine, with a very small increase.. but its amazing what a capable chassis can do.. the last one had torsion beam setup at the back.. this new one with its multilink and better rigidity shows how good the platform the current civic is being built on.

      i don’t see renault beating that with out a more powerful engine and a lot of lightening (plastic windows etc).. after all it is 5.5 seconds quicker than that stripped out over powered golf.

      looking forward to my test drive when it becomes available this summer.. will most likely order one.

      • Kaisuke971

        The next gen MRS will have at least 300hp (25 up from the Trophy R), four wheel steering, a DCT and at least Pilot Sport 4S from the factory. I’d be surprised if it doesn’t beat the CTR.

        • pureworx

          4wheel steering adds weight.. and doesn’t necessarily translate into higher speeds through corners. and a DCT might shift quick but its no manual, its not fun… and like i said it will need to be an extremely capable chassis to out do the CTR or be on a very strict diet and stripped of all the comforts available in the CTR.

          if the renault takes the record it will be on semi slick tyres just about road legal, missing a lot of comfort features, have plastic windows and other plastic bits to aide weight loss, maybe even a missing back seat.

          • Kaisuke971

            You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, the whole point of four wheel steering is to increase cornering speed and it’s more than worth the tiny weight penalty. That’s why Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini use it.

            You’re also completely ignoring that this CTR has a roll cage, no back seats, no A/C and semi slick tyres. This is not the car they’ll sell to people. This and underrating Renault Sport while overrating Honda of course but that was already obvious in the previous comment.

          • pureworx

            no you’re ignoring this… “The car had a full floating roll cage for safety reasons, which did not provide any additional rigidity to the body frame according to Honda, and to compensate for the added weight, the rear seats and Display Audio system were removed. Moreover, the Nurburgring record for front-wheel drive production cars was achieved using street legal, track-focused tires.”

            as you can see the roll cage was not used for aditiona rigidity for the chassis, and there was no removal of the AC.. only audio and back seat to compensate for the rollcage weight.

            4 wheel steering was used on hondas way before renault or porsche tried it or even lanbo/ferrari.. although im not aware of a ferrari with 4ws or a lambo for that matter.. 4wheel steer doesn’t always translate into cornering speed.. sometimes its just more stability.

            “For the run, Honda used a pre-production model, which is said to have been “technically representative of production specification”.”… again its close enough to what they will sell.

          • Kaisuke971

            You really think Honda is completely honest ? And don’t you realize that they offset the weight balance when they “correct” the penalty of the rollcage ? Permit me to doubt everything they said when it was the exact same blabla for the previous gen and the car was quite a bit slower than advertised.

            Lol the 4WS in the Prelude sucks, the first to really get how to make it efficient were Nissan with their HICAS system. The increased stability permits to make the car use its tyres more efficiently at high speeds since the system will correct the understeer, basically making the car grip on all four corners more evenly.

            But the record will probably never be homologated since this isn’t a production car anyway so all that talk is useless lol

          • pureworx

            you mean the hicas that was more problematic than acceptable that the most popular mod became the hicas delete? I owned a R33GTR lovely car but it wasn’t completely under steer free.. more like under steer suddenly turned into a controlled over steer when driven really hard.

            and yes Honda are more honest than most automotive manufacturers.. definitely more than the European and american bunch.

  • Infinite1

    Looks like Renault is going to work to beat this new record. Honda also made the Type R slightly faster than before, going up to 316 HP this time around. Will have to see how it performs on the street as well.

  • chumaxa .

    An other bullshit time from Honda ? The previous car was supposed to be faster than competitors, until journalists took it to different tracks, and it was slower than the Megane with evo per exemple .. They always bring car saying that it is “close to factory spec”, can not be more dodgy, not that I really care by the way ..

    • Vassilis

      Exactly my thoughts. Just get a proper production car and lap it.

    • MRCLKBLACK

      They also pointed out, that the Civic came with Continentals sport tyres. The Megane Trophy always had Cup2s. I’m not completely trying to defend Honda, as I personally give the Hot hatchback crown to Renault. But those test Type Rs had a big disadvantage.

  • Tex

    The rear spoiler is a spoiler for me and the wheels look like they almost have no rubber on them.

  • TechLegend

    It needs to be said… this is a MT too. Most record beating cars these days are DCTs.

    • MRCLKBLACK

      So are the Clubsport S and the 275 Trophy.

  • Honda NSX-R

    Good to see a family member doing great.

    • Eythan Aldrich

      Indeed…..

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