New 2019 BMW 3-Series Vs Competition: What’s Your Favorite Euro Sports Sedan?

People in the market for a premium compact sports sedan are spoiled for choice these days. No matter which model has the absolute latest tech, overall, every single European nameplate in this segment is a highly competitive product.

Right now, the new generation (2019) BMW 3-Series has the advantage of having arrived last to the party, which means that you need not look elsewhere if all you’re after is the absolute latest in on-board tech.

However, the reality is that none of these six European sports sedans is light years ahead of the rest in any department. It wouldn’t be much of a tight contest if they were – so believe us when we say, you can easily make an argument for just about any of them, as long as you genuinely like that specific model.

Which design philosophy do you buy into?

We obviously can’t just come out and say that the all-new G20 3-Series is the best looking car in its class. This is a matter of personal taste and every single one of these automakers adheres to its own design philosophy.

Now, the 3-Series is at its peak from an aesthetic standpoint. We’re dealing with BMW’s latest design, which is all about making the product look more modern and imposing – hence the tall shoulder line, contoured profile, aggressive-looking front and rear fascias and increased wheelbase size.

Something like the Audi A4 on the other hand is a lot less…new. The model you can buy right now was restyled earlier this year, yet the changes remain extremely subtle, to the point were most wont notice. You could say that overall, it’s a surprisingly conservative product, although its interior remains exquisitely-well built, with plenty of safety and convenience tech. So, while you probably won’t be able to geek out over it as you would the new 3-Series, the dashboard design on the A4 is plenty modern.

Like the Audi, the Mercedes C-Class also underwent a facelift earlier this year, receiving tweaked bumpers, revised lighting units, an optional 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, new steering-wheel, new optional 10.25-inch infotainment display and new driver assistance systems. It’s not quite on the same level as the BMW, but there’s a certain elegance to the C-Class that no other car in its segment can claim. Also, its exterior design isn’t as “sensually purified” as that of the latest CLS or even the new A-Class, yet you’ll still find less design creases than you would on most of its rivals.

The world is bigger than just Germany

Speaking of which, this is 2018 and you no longer have to look at something German in order to end up with a great automobile. The likes of Volvo, Jaguar and even Alfa Romeo have been doing a terrific job in this segment during these past few years and models like the new S60, XE and the Giulia are more than capable of putting up a good fight against the 3er, A4 and C-Class.

Some would argue that the Giulia, for example, is the most beautiful car in its segment. Whether they’re right, is not up to us to say, but its design certainly has all the right curves one would appreciate on a sporty Italian car. While the Alfa is an awesome sports sedan from a performance stand point, its interior, though good enough, isn’t best-in-class, neither quality nor tech-wise.

But you know whose might be? The all-new Volvo S60’s. This is Sweden’s best sports sedan ever and according to the company, it’s also “one of the most exciting Volvo cars ever made.”

In fact, its active safety technology should hold its own against the BMW’s, while overall cabin quality has been described as excellent, like with the rest of Volvo’s current range. Of course, the S60’s interior design is more of elegant than sporty/driver-focused, and the same can be said about its exterior.

Then there’s the Jaguar XE, Britain’s answer to Germany’s dominance in this segment. The XE has been with us for over three years now and while it hasn’t dethroned anyone of importance in regards to sales numbers, it’s still a very good car. Aside from the fact that it drives really well (though not better than the Giulia and the jury is still out on the new 3-Series), the XE also looks like a proper Jaguar from most angles. We say most, because its rear end design has been known to disappoint some consumers.

As for its cabin, it certainly well-built and offers a somewhat sporty ambiance, but overall quality and tech still falls underneath what BMW have managed to do for their latest 3-Series.

Now’s the time you let us know which of these cars is your favorite and why. And if you happen to rank them one through six, we would not mind that one bit!

  • Bash

    Torn, but what ever I would choose, it won’t be the BMW. #justsaying

    • Christian

      why not…? You don’t support rear wheel drive cars?

      • Yobobjm

        Bruh the Jag, Merc, and Alfa are all also rwd

        • Christian

          I¨m not your brother….

          • Yobobjm

            Thankfully

      • KidRed

        I don’t support BMW’s decision to design ugly.

        • Christian

          So you don’t support cars with a rear wheel drive layout? RWD-Transphobic?

          • ksegg

            You must be fun at parties!

          • Christian

            I uselessly try to sty away from such thing, so I really don’t know.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Funny

    • Mike anonymous

      I would say the Alfa Romeo or the Volvo for a few reasons, one of the main ones would be (what I personally call) “automotive longevity”.

      After 5 (or even 10) years, they will not depreciate as heavily as anything else from MB, BMW, Jag, or Audi. Volvo and Alfa are both vehicles with great design and based on their brands history, they will not be “redesigned” or “face-lifted” any time in the near future as both brand build their vehicle without the intent to replace them only 2-3 or 5-6 years after their initial debut (,. what I also call “scheduled obsolescence”).

      Both the Volvo and Giulia are two vehicles that (while now can be debated wether or not they are the best in “styling”,) will not become dated after only a few years on the market. (Also not that the Giulia is the oldest vehicle on this entire list as of today (as it has received no facelift, etc, since it’s initial launch almost 5 years ago in early 2015.

      If I had to choose one (and I had to own/drive it for the next 10+ years), it would be the Alfa Romeo.

      • Nordschleife

        I don’t know how I feel about your rationale. So you feel they won’t be dated because they “ideally” will stick around longer than 7 years? So in your opinion a car becomes timeless if it lasts longer than 7 years? So they can have several refreshes but as long as the basic design is 7 years or more it becomes inherently timeless?

        • Mike anonymous

          Oh no, sorry. I meant that I think the vehicle are both timeless, AND will stick around longer than 7 years.

          Just because a vehicle sticks around for a long time doesn’t make it “timeless” (i.e. (although I still think it’s a cool car) the Nissan 350Z/370Z). I was just saying that if I buy one now, I’m not going to feel like I have the “old one” only a few years after my initial purchase.

          But YOU ARE RIGHT 👍, just because they stick around doesn’t make it timeless. I don’t know how long the Giulia will stick around, But I do think the Alfa Romeo’s design is one that is timeless (which is why I would choose that one most, not just because it may stick around longer).

          • Finkployd

            maybe you feel it’s timeless design bc you see fewer of them …

          • Mike anonymous

            Not at all, I would have said that if that is what I thought. I personally think it’s a timeless design (maybe not “the most timeless design in all of automotive history” but timeless in my opinion none the less.), at the ‘very least’ in comparison to the other vehicles here.

            I was invited to the original US debut of the Giulia (in 2015) when technically there was only one (and MY goodness, many of the photographs don’t do this car justice). If anything there are actually more of them now, and I still feel it is a timeless vehicle design. But that’s just my opinion, maybe you feel differently.

            (Also on a different topic; I’m not sure if that’s you in your profile picture, but it’s a cool profile picture. Just thought I should mention it while I have the chance)

          • Finkployd

            Of course I like the Giulia design, but would I enjoy it as much if they were everywhere ? prob not.
            Rarity makes things more desirable … as long as they re desirable to begin with i.e: Aztek :/

            Also how come you got invited to the Giulia reveal party ?
            (& thanks for your nice comment, it’s my pic indeed)

          • Mike anonymous

            I think the term you may have originally been thinking of was (not timeless, but instead) exclusive or special. Even if a vehicle is on the roads more, it can still be timeless,. But just because it is timeless, does not make it special. Especially if (as you put it) they’re everywhere.

            The Bugatti Veyron is timeless, but if everyone had one it wouldn’t feel as special,.. or as Syndrome from (the 2004 film) “The Incredibles” put it perfectly (and to your point),.. “If everyone’s super,. No one will be”. So you absolutely right about that.


            As for the Reveal Party/Event, it wasn’t the main launch, but the US launch instead. I was invited because I used to partly run and write for a ‘solely-digital’ automotive publication (run by myself and a small team of friends (who I have not seen in years now)). The publication was pretty small, but caught the attention of larger publications such as Automobile Mag, and Car & Driver, in the earlier years (although we don’t make the magazine any longer).
            I actually got to meet and shake hands with Sergio Marchionne, he talked with me about the Maserati Alfieri. (The magazine itself is not technically Defunct, it’s more on an “indefinite hiatus”. So technically I can still attend events, but I personally have just not had the time, as I’ve chosen to put my focus elsewhere.)

            (But to continue) From there We (either alone or with one of the team members) would get to go to the press days at auto shows, and attend all of the automotive reveal events (or we would be invited to events by companies). I personally went to the Alfa Romeo event on my own, and it was (crowded, but it was) GOOD. I have a probably enough stories to fill a room full of books (far too much for the comment section here)

            (And your welcome on the comment of your profile pic, it’s definitely one cool picture).

        • Six Thousand Times

          How long did the PT Cruiser hang around for? The Volvo 340?

          • Nordschleife

            Are you suggesting those cars are timeless?

          • Six Thousand Times

            Oh, absolutely!

          • ErnieB

            Correct..

      • TheHake

        You are kidding about the Alfa, right? Have you seen what used Alfa’s are worth? Nothing. The Brera was super expensive new, but you can get them for the price of a Golf 3 now.

        • ErisC

          Not that true. Look at the Giulietta, which has held it’s value pretty well. Anyway, regarding the topic the Alfa Romeo Giulia is like a beautiful but overindulged women. You enjoy every second that you are with her, but you shouldn’t marry her because you know it will be very difficult. On the other hand the MB C-class is like a serious but less beautiful women that you know you can marry and have zero problems with. So, I would take the MB and as a replacement, for the moments when i would want more fun and adrenaline, the Giulia. A wife and a mistress ;D

          • Mike anonymous

            Absolutely. Beautifully and Well put.

            The article does say “your favorite” which would mean I can only choose one, BUT if I ‘could’ choose two… well,. you’ve made a pretty good/convincing point for what my (and I am not 100% sure on this, (as I do like the Volvo) but,) second choice may very well could be. Stated perfectly.

  • Six Thousand Times

    The Jaaaaaag is pretty but its interior lets it down. The Audi is nice enough but you can’t put too much power into its longitudinal-engine, fwd/awd platform. The Volvo is fwd non-enthusiast car. The Alfa is glorious but I’m still scared it will all end in tears.the Benz is OK but it’s a blob and the shortened S-Klasse styling doesn’t work for me. The best all-rounder is still the 3er (with a six.)

    • TheHake

      But will it still come with a 6? Even the 335i will be a 4.

      • Six Thousand Times

        Really? I’d think that they would have to still offer that sweet inline six but if they didn’t, I wouldn’t want one.

        • TheHake

          Hopefully the 340i will still be available. But the X2 35i is a 2.0 4-cyl.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Just looked it up: the sixer will be called 340i and will follow along shortly. I remember when the Germans used to be honest about their model names. Alas…

          • TheHake

            Guess it’s still better than the arbitrary number that Audi uses…

          • Six Thousand Times

            Dunno, the A6 3.0 can be counted on to BE a 3.0.

          • TheHake

            I’m talking about their silly 55, 42, 12, -32… naming.

      • Able

        They confirmed that the M340i will be a six.

        • TheHake

          Good!

    • D3X

      Which is interesting, because Volvo does have a performance T8, 412 HP powertrain that they don’t seem to believe would sell. Rather they are covering it with exclusivity. I think it’s the wrong way to compete. Your comment pretty much exactly describes Volvo’s market perception with performance. The outgoing S60 Polestar was EXCELLENT, and for a time it held a nice record at Nurburgring right behind the Gulia in the 4dr Production Sedan series.

      • Six Thousand Times

        That T8 is a “hybrid” system so I’d want nothing to do with it. Who needs the extra weight, cost, and complexity of adding a second powertrain to your car when you can get a sweet rwd six instead?

        • D3X

          RWD Six Cylinders are going the way of the DoDo unfortunately like the manual stick transmissions. Sad.

  • nunomaiaGMR

    The list is missing the Genesis G70. A formidable alternative that is available with manual gearbox. It’s also missing the Lexus IS, another obvious alternative in the luxury sports sedan category. And of course, the Volvo S60 and Audi A4 don’t belong here: these are sub-premium car that don’t have proper luxury architecture.

    • Six Thousand Times

      Oh, the Audi is lux enough but not sport enough. The Lexus IS is really well made but a stylistic mess. The G70 looks good but not sure about the brand. Smart people are probably all buying KIA Stingers.

      • filetx

        not smart people but poor people buy the Stinger.

        • Six Thousand Times

          I think poor people get the bus.

        • Matthew Boyd

          Not necessarily poor, but I get what you mean. Cost of ownership is the difference between theses cars and that’s due to how they’re built and the materials their built with. And let’s be real, if you want a Mercedes, you’ll pay the astronomical prices for their A & B services. There should be no reason a C Class minor and major service cost roughly $150-$190 more than an A4 and 3 Series alternating services. I can say this because I’ve owned a C350, 335 sedan, and A4.

          Mercedes is no joke on the service side, but the C Class I owned wasn’t the best built car out of the three, and was the easiest to work on on my own if need be. Paying for the three pointed star.

        • ErnieB

          Poor people can’t even afford a used Yaris much less a $40k Stinger..

      • Matthew Boyd

        Silly comment

        • Six Thousand Times

          Because….?

          • Matthew Boyd

            I say silly comment because the client looking at an Audi A4, and I can only speak for that car, isn’t interested in a Kia Stinger. Two different types of cars, two different types of buyers, household median incomes, marital statuses. Just saying. There’s deeper things that seperate cars besides the actual price and performance, and it’s the clientele of the company in general.

          • Six Thousand Times

            Not going to say you’re wrong in all cases but we are looking at an Audi A5 Sportback and we are also interested in the Arteon and checked out the Stinger. Several magazines have tested the Stinger versus the 3er/A4 as well.

            Plus, I’d have gone with your follow-up argument first rather than just leading with rudeness.

          • Matthew Boyd

            My bad, didn’t mean to be rude.

    • pcurve

      i agree, but the article did say ‘euro’…

      • nunomaiaGMR

        Didn’t notice, my bad.

    • SteersUright

      Just saw G70 at auto show. Looks great until you get inside. Inside feels as cheap as any economy car in places, top stereo was mediocre, no space in backseat (may as well been a coupe), and door makes that inexpensive sounding rattle-y clunk when closed. No thanks. After inspecting Audi and Lexus prior, this felt every bit a Hyundai and no match for those brands.

      • Galaxium

        There are videos of reviewers who immediately remark at how high quality the door closing sounds in the G70. It’s a great competitor in the field.

        • SteersUright

          Reviews are one thing, opening and closing a door yourself is another. And lets not forget the nonexistant space in the back seats nor the cheapo feeling materials.

          • Galaxium

            I genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about anymore. The G70 has excellent materials inside, with rather nice quality leather and aluminum throughout the cabin.

          • Matthew Boyd

            How can you know this, the car hasn’t even been tested yet, not a full instrumented test, or long-term drive. If reviewers can’t give a full indepth on the car, how can you? BTW, it’s KIA’s luxury brand. For some reason you think they’re going to compete quality wise with luxury cars that are in there 7-8-9th generations? That’s illogical thinking. The best they can do is throw an engine into the mix that can perform with the bunch, that’s the only shot. You know how long this car would have to be in development to reach the quality standards of the top of the class? Think about it… multiple decades at the least, not on their first generation car.

          • Finkployd

            *Hyundai’s* luxury brand. Kia s luxury models like K900 are still under the Kia badge for now

    • erly5

      G70 and IS absent because they ain’t ‘European’

    • Matthew Boyd

      Let me get this straight…You said an Audi A4 in it’s 9th generation with things like acoustic glass standard, real wood, real metals, and real leathers used on it’s interior, aluminium body panels including the doors, hood, rear deck, and front fenders, a 4G LTE wireless hotspot, awd, and made by a 100 year company with racing pedigree as their background, is a sub-premium car? What country do you live in seriously, and you’ve never been inside an A4 to say some 🤬like that.

      But let’s get this straight, you said the G70 and a Lexus IS, one non luxury, and a actual sub-premium brand should be there? Your a hater on Audi, and Volvos never had the pedigree so I get that, but your comment falls short of lacking in any knowledge of the class, the R&D budgets it cost to make one in this class, and how little it cost to develop a G70 (in its first generation), and a Lexus IS (in it’s 3-4th generation…someone correct me if I’m wrong on how many gen’s for the IS).

      And if it’s off of performance, the A4 outperforms the Lexus IS in the skidpad, 0-60, 1/4 mile, 60-0 braking…so wtf are you using as a classification, or is this just you opinion? The G70 hasn’t had a full test completed yet and Genesis is a below sub-premium brand. There’s no pedigree, no racing heritage, there’s no nothing behind their cars but KIA.

      Mototrend states, “G70 doesn’t have the same off-the-line punch as, say, the 2.0-liter fours found in Audi’s A4 or the Mercedes-Benz C-Class. There’s a pronounced, agonizing lag before the turbo finds its spin and breathes life into the cylinders”

      Motortrend states” As good as the G70 is right out of the gate, it doesn’t live in a vacuum. The Audi A4 continues to be one of the best cars in its class”

      CarandDriver states “If you want absolute performance at this price point and fuel economy, look no further than the Audi. A sleeper, the conservatively styled A4 is the quickest both in a straight line and around our figure-eight test”. This was against the Cadillac ATS, Lexus IS, BMW 3 series, Mercedes C Class, Jaguar XE, and Alfa Gulia.

      Within the same C&D review:

      “The Lexus earned its slowest straight-line performance fair and square with the second-highest curb weight (despite being only rear-wheel drive) and the second-least powerful engine”

      “Audi also was well-received by the judges. The technical superiority was obvious; its virtual cockpit digital dash looked like something out of the future and offered features and functionality no competitor could match”

      “The Audi boasts the highest performance in our instrumented testing while also offering far more features than the rest. With price equalized, there’s no questioning the Audi’s dominance in the amount of car you get for the money”

  • Dennis James

    Alfa Giulia for me, definitely. Great cohesive design, great handling with fast steering, double-wishbone front suspension and carbon-fiber driveshaft on many models, and also great price.

    • Ryan50

      Yeah great price until all the breakdowns you have to pay for.

      • Dennis James

        Well, someone had to post the cliche of the week.

  • enthusia

    I’d rather have a Genesis G70

  • pcurve

    bmw exterior now looks like its class above everything. it’s a clear winner for me. they also made the right choice by getting rid of base 320i.

  • Nordschleife

    I think most people just have a new-ness issue. Most people tend to like the newest model because it is indeed new.

    I’d honestly pick the C-class. I love the current design (their entire language for me) and I think it’s aged well. I loved the interior (I never had an issue with the screen) and to me it just conveys a air of class that’s missing from the rest.

    I also like the XE but only in its most expensive form as anything less looks ridiculously cheap. The Guila is pretty sharp in my opinion but the tech/reliability is a step behind. The S60 looks good but I dislike the C-pillar and haunches (looks like two separate cars). The A4 is decent but I hate that continuous air vent and it looks generic in my opinion and the 3 series looked fantastic with the camo but I was less than impressed upon it final reveal and every front bumper looks tragic to me.

    Call it a jellybean, call it plain, say the infotainment looks tacked on but for my money the C-class can covey both elegance as well as aggressiveness in one cohesive package so it wins for me.

    A click poll would’ve been nice here.

    • Matthew Boyd

      Good point where you stated “I think most people just have a new-ness issue. Most people tend to like the newest model because it is indeed new”. +1

  • PK

    3 Series = FC Barcelona
    C Class = Real Madrid
    A4 = Bayern Munich
    Giulia = Juventus
    S60 = PSG
    XE = Manchester United

    • MultiKdizzle

      Because Ibra is Swedish, right?

      • PK

        i compared to the clubs not the players.

  • Jon galt

    The upcoming CT5 will outclass them all. Inside and out. I saw it.

    • Nordschleife

      Lets focus on what we all can see and all can healthily debate upon shall we.

  • MPAMPIS

    alfa romeo giulia !!!

  • :/ Yurr

    Definitely would be between the Volvo and the MB. They look the best to me.

  • filetx

    Jaguar exterior looks worse than a 10 year old car from the other brands, but I didn’t know, it had a nice interior. For the volvo it’s the other way around

  • eb110americana

    If I were buying on looks alone, I’d go for the Jag, with a nod to the S60, which looks quite handsome in person. The Jag is getting on in years, but has a timeless style none of the others possess. I still cannot stand the front bumpers on the 3-Series, and find the rest of the styling wooden and unappealing. I actually would avoid buying one because I find it so unattractive. Perhaps the M3 will be better, like last time around.

    If I were buying on interiors alone, I would go for the Mercedes or the Audi. Audi’s Virtual Cockpit wins the tech and wow categories hands down. The Mercedes has a classic feel, and is actually my favorite Mercedes interior, since it lacks that wide flat panel comprising both the gauges and infotainment in one. I love the open-pore wood on the minimalist center console. I think the Mercedes just edges out the Audi on lux, if nothing else, than for the overall package.

    But I am a slave to performance, so I would probably buy on that metric alone. And on that, if comparing top spec, I would go for the Alfa and its Quadrifoglio model. Reliability would be a huge hurdle to putting down over $70K, but I might just risk it. The RS4 has a similar allure with a concern for long-term reliability, and would play nice in inclement weather if I lived in such a climate. The V8 C63 would be the cruiser of the group, and it’s hard to argue with a V8 even if it weighs substantially more and doesn’t have razor-sharp handling. I drove the Jag when it came out a few years ago, and I really don’t see what all of the fuss is about handling. It is quick, but I really did not find it to be engaging. I don’t really love the ATS-V styling, but I would cross-shop its alpha chassis bones against the Giulia, were I to buy either.

  • Topherly

    The Giulia has the sleekest styling subjectively, but as others have mentioned there’s no tier between the turbo and Quad – quite an omission. The Jag looks great for a first-gen and has better engine choices, but I’d like to see a refresh on the rear at least.

  • SteersUright

    1. Jag, outdated from launch. Feels cheap as hell inside. Looks unfinished outside. Try again please.
    2. MB, really nice looking/performing only in C43 version, and I don’t get the hoopla over interior, looks just “ok” to me.
    3. BMW, rear 3/4 looks mean, the rest a bit derivative. Interior looks nicest. Performance seems it will set the standard once again. Hopefully. Def may reclaim lead or close runner-up in this segment.
    4. Alfa, nice design but needs polish. Somehow appears cheaper-made than the others. Also, only 4cyl or crazy TTV6 on offer, nothing in the middle, though much needed. Lastly, quality is questionable, especially with latest engine fire report. That said, were reliability guaranteed, say with 6yr 100k bumper to bumper, I’d wager on it and get one of these. Its handling is sublime. So is the Stelvio’s, for that matter. However, interior screen res needs an upgrade asap. Best auto I’ve ever driven, paddles offer near DCT speed shifts.
    5. Volvo is nearly the best looking. But, on the inside it looks more like mom n dad’s suv or minivan, than sporting driver’s anything. Hopefully drives as good as it looks. Probably not, being FWD based.
    6. Audi, always looks sleek, if not outdated already. Interior, high-spec version, looks incredible. Dynamics and performance are credible, but aloof for keen drivers. No thanks.

    • Matthew Boyd

      Cool $#!t. You gave an honest, “mostly” unbiased opinion on all the cars. Most people are saying some off the wall stuff. +1

  • erly5

    1. Alfa Romeo
    2. BMW
    3. Volvo
    4. Mercedes
    5. XE
    6. Audi

  • BlackPegasus

    When deciding which car to choose I started with the interior I can live with followed by exterior design and the BMW came out on top.

    1. BMW 3 series
    2. Volvo S60
    3. Mercedes C class

  • designer_dick

    Alfa, Jaguar and Volvo would be my top 3 choices, primarily because they’re NOT a product of Germany’s homogenous design philosophy. Unfortunately, while the Jaguar scores on dynamics, it falls down on its interior, which is both blandly designed and rather cheaply finished, while the Volvo scores on its looks, but falls down on its FWD platform, so I’d go with the Alfa – it might not be as objectively “perfect” as any of the three German cars, with questionable long-term reliability, a less robust interior and just OK infotainment, but it has more character, style and flair than all three of them combined.

    • Nordschleife

      I’d have to disagree seeing as every new Volvo looks the same and almost every Jaguar.

  • OdysseyTag

    They’re all pretty nice. Each have their charm. That’s why I prefer Euro design to others – they never feel like they’re trying to be premium, they just are. No over-chromed motifs, extreme body contours or pretentious naming. It helps that these are the sport trims though as most of these in bog-standard mode look downright dreary.

  • klowik

    I prefer the newer BMW though it’s not a complete redesign. It is just a feeling that new is better.

  • Tinky-Winky

    I’d skip Europe and pick Kia Stinger instead.

  • 1. C-Class
    2. S60
    3. 3-Series
    4. XE
    5. A4
    6. Guilia

  • XtremWize
    • Vassilis

      Isn’t it more expensive than those cars?

      • Six Thousand Times

        And a size up.

  • Vassilis

    The Alfa looks great but it’ll have to be the Volvo for me.

  • TheHake

    Definitely the Volvo for me.

    • Belthronding

      you are not alone

      • LeStori

        Volvo is for when you think being a priest is a great idea. Alfa Romeo is when you think being a priest would be hell on earth…

  • Fabio P

    Alfa Romeo Giulia forever!!

  • shamrock

    1. Alpha- best all-arounder, though not impressed with interior.
    2. Bimmer- runner up for best all-arounder
    3. Merc- best interior, very elegant exterior, but I prefer something a bit sportier.
    4. Audi- best hud hands down, exterior is beginning to look dated in comparison to the others.
    5. Volvo- clean exterior design by the Swedes, although the interior may be a bit too bland.
    6. Jag- just looks dated.

  • Six Thousand Times

    The love for that Volvo always surprises me. It looks like the S90 got squeezed in a vice and it’s a front driver to boot. Honestly, my last choice.

  • Ary Wisesa

    This is my rank:
    1. Mercedes C-Class, for its classical design, allure and sophistication.
    2. Alfa Giulia, for its sexiness. The closest thing to Ferrari (especially the QV variant).
    3. BMW 3 Series. Perhaps it’s not the best looking, but I bet it will drive very good as expected from a 3 Series. I know it because I’ve driven 3 Series quiet often. So I will never take it out from my consideration.
    4. Audi A4, for its subtle and elegant exterior, but truly hi-tech inside. I always like the non-obtrusive face of Audi.
    5. Volvo S60. I mean, who can’t resist the charm of gorgeous modern Volvos? Since the introduction of the XC90, Volvo keeps pumping many good looking vehicles out of its factory. The V90 Cross Country is my favorite Volvo.
    6. Jaguar XE. I must admit I don’t like it. (Actually I won’t consider a JLR product ever, except the RR Velar).

  • Trackhacker

    I would choose a Japanese car over these. But if I had to I’d choose Volvo.

  • KidRed

    2 months ago, I’d say BMW. Now that the ugly G20 is out, looks are now a deal breaker. If I had a 2nd car as backup, I’d go Alfa. Otherwise, I’d go with either Audi or Mercedes. Jaguar is like a British Lexus and Volvo just isn’t there-yet.

  • ksegg

    Favorite Euro Sports Saloon?

    Unfortunately they stopped making the E39 M5 in 2003, back when BMW gave a rats ass, or the 2006 C55 AMG, which was the last classy AMG, imo.

  • Cobrajet

    C class or No class.

    • LeStori

      Having driven a C250 for a month, I would go for the Giulia. Life is too short to drive an ugly vehicle that drives like a Volvo.

  • Ryan50

    DODGE CHARGER!!

    • Six Thousand Times

      Though you’d be livin’ double-wide, I don’t think you quite understand the question. European by way of some old recycled M-B bits?

  • Yishay

    Giulia

  • jfalckt

    1. C-Class
    2. S60
    3. XE
    4. Guilia
    5. A4
    6. 3-Series

  • You forgot to mention the one car that currently outsells every single one of these in the US – Tesla Model 3 👋

  • ErisC

    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is like a beautiful but overindulged women. You enjoy every second that you are with her, but you shouldn’t marry her because you know it will be very difficult. On the other hand the MB C-class is like a serious but less beautiful women that you know you can marry and have zero problems with. So, I would take the MB and as a replacement, for the moments when i would want more fun and adrenaline, the Giulia. A wife and a mistress ;D 😛

  • TheHake
    • Mike anonymous

      I pulled my information from about 15-19 different automotive sales sites, in addition to the automakers websites themselves. The Lowest average asking price for a Berra is (again as I previously listed) $11K, and can go up to and average of $22k. I also listed the original asking price of the vehicle (which was $26K).

      NOW FOR SOME MATH :

      Now, the general Market for the Berra is only 21,661 for the BASE model shown in my prior comment. The company made another variant called the Berra Spider, and only 12,363 vehicles were made. They both came in 2 trim levels, the BASE model which I have already shown, and a higher performance version which included tweaks to the vehicles chassis and suspension named the “Berra S”. In total only 34,024 Berra’s were ever made for the entire world. I am only referencing the BASE model Berra as it is the least expensive used version or variant of the vehicle available for sale, as that would only be fair in comparison.

      I have listed both above and in my prior comment; the lowest average asking price for a Berra, and the Highest average asking price for a Berra. Based on these figures the Berra will only have lost 55% of it’s original value AT WORST on average, and generally will have lost only 10% of it’s original asking price AT BEST on average.

      Your argument is that the vehicle is “worth (essentially) nothing”, in comparison to their original asking price, although I’ve shown, that is clearly not the case.

      You stated that you found your listing on the site called “AutoScout”, but I feel the need to inform yourself, (or others who may not be aware) that any vehicle, Be it a Toyota or a Rolls-Royce, can significantly loose value based on how the previous owner of the vehicle has treated their car. Hence the entire process of checking a vehicles history (if you are buying used) prior to making any purchase (although I am sure most users on the site (and possibly yourself) are aware of this). Again, in case if your unclear, the base average is $11K with the highest average being $22k, only a 10% loss in value for the Berra,… (again) a 15+ year old vehicle.

      I have listed all of the information you’ll need above (in this comment as well as my priors) to hopefully better understand things. I am NOT defending Alfa, but I wouldn’t want incorrect information being put out there, and I have listed what facts have come about from said research.

      ——

      Now we all have our own opinions. Maybe you like the golf better, or some other vehicle more,.. and that is OK. I have already stated ‘why’ I would want the Giulia and/or a Berra, and I personally don’t feel the need to be repetitive and reiterate my personal opinion on either of the vehicles (, As you can simply re-read what I’ve said (or ask myself here in the comment section) if you are not completely sure, or if you need any other explanation, on my opinion and reasoning for liking either of the two vehicles). I wouldn’t mind owning a Berra or a Giulia as I have my own personal opinion on the vehicles and I know what it is I want individually from any vehicle purchase (real or hypothetical) I would consider making. We all have our own opinions, and I can only give you (the facts, as well as) my own.

      I am personally not sure (as things have swayed a little off topic) what point you may be trying to prove or get at, but I feel that I have made mine already.

      • TheHake

        Over here it was >€60k new and you can get tons of them for <€5K with lowish mileage (100-120 k km). A Golf V GTI was €36k new and they are in the range of €5-8k… And I looked ONLY at the 3.2 Brera with pano roof. Not the 2.4 or diesels since those are worth even less.

        • Mike anonymous

          When I had previously checked, I checked for all models individually, and in total, although I have only listed the information regarding the base model Alfa Romeo Berra.

          (“Again”),. If you read my previous comment, I state that; “any vehicle, Be it a Toyota or a Rolls-Royce, can significantly loose value based on how the previous owner of the vehicle has treated their car.”

          I am not sure what you may be considering a ‘ton’ but in the UK there are only around 30 to (possibly) 50 Berra’s for sale at a price lower than £9,000, around $11K USD. Now these prices are based on the owners previous use and management of the vehicle.

          Let’s say that hypothetically there are 100 (worldwide) Berra’s selling at less than below the lowest average of $11k (noting that the highest average is still $22k). Alfa-Romeo sold over 21,661 models of the hard-top (normal) Berra. Now let’s say that ‘half’ of those are “Berra S” variants. That still leaves us with Over 10,800 base level Berra’s. This means that LESS than 1% of all used Berra’s sold are selling for the price you are suggesting ‘if’ even 100 used ones were being sold for below the lowest average price (worldwide), if at all.

          Based on the numbers, only 0.2% of all Alfa Romeo Berra’s are selling below the lowest average of $11k, with the ‘general’ (meaning the majority) average being $22k with the original asking price being $26k, Losing only 55% – 10% in total value. Which is much better in actuality than most other vehicles from the other listed brands, selling around $26k from (and this is important;) ‘over’ 15 years ago.

          The actual asking price of a Berra in Europe (as listed by the manufacturer, all specifications included) were £23,290 – £35,732, the base model coming out to around $26k USD. Meaning that the vehicle has held it’s value since it’s official first day of sale (better than the Golf, or any other vehicle near it’s price range from any of the listed brands made) over ‘5 years and 1 Decade’ ago.

          (Again just read my previous comment, or check with reputable sources (as well as the automakers themselves) if you want either my opinion or more information to the topic). Also ((and I realize you are not in the UK, ) wether in USD, Euros, ‘or’ Pounds) Alfa Romeo was not charging €60,000 for the Berra, the base price in euros would have been €26,000, which still means that the Berra has not lost it’s value. (Not all Alfa’s may hold their value the way the Berra has, but the majority of their vehicles (even at the lowest average) tend to hold their value for longer periods of time then most other brands by relative comparison).

          Again, (it’s not the MAIN reason I would want a Berra or the Giulia, and) this is WAY off topic.

  • Steven Ferry

    if i want to buy a car in this segments off course i choose Alfa romeo Giulia because its the best design and the best performance …

  • ctk4949

    Look wise…Exterior, the Alfa. Interior, The Volvo or Jag

  • DMax

    Where is the poll carpoops you lazy bums?
    If we’re talking performance variants then I’ll take the Giulia QV, but the base model Giulia looks so lame. I’ll take the 3.

  • Subi-Rubicon1

    1. 3-Series (The bumper treatment is too gimmicky though, interior looks great)
    2. C-Class (Overall looks classy, but too bulbous, interior would look better if the screen were integrated)
    3. Giulia (Great looks all around, interior looks good)
    4. XE (Good looks at front, not so at back, interior looks cheap and dated)
    5. S60 (Looks great except for the c-pillar and the rear lamps, interior looks good but too blocky)
    6. A4 (Looks remind me too much of the Jetta/Passat, interior is great minus the screen)

    Its how I see it.

  • Tumbi Mtika

    I could go for some Swedish.

    Korean also looks good too…

  • blunt-o

    they should have all been electrified 50 years ago. Humans are much dumber than you think you are.

  • chitown

    Looks wise, gotta put the Giulia (though the rims on the specimen you chose are awful) and the Jag. The BMW is the best of the Germans but…while it is sharp, it pains me to say it looks rather Kia-like. That bumper and some of the superfluous touches have got to go.

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