VW Tiguan Allspace, Skoda Kodiaq And Kia Sorento Comparison Test Won By Underdog

Which 7-seater SUV should you buy between VW’s Tiguan Allspace, Skoda’s new Kodiaq and Kia’s popular Sorento? It’s actually not that easy of a decision, as they’re all extremely spacious, practical, safe and well-equipped.

Starting with interior design and build quality, Mat Watson of Carwow was surprised to find that the perceived quality in the Kodiaq was better than the Tiguan’s. Meanwhile, the Sorento left him pleasantly surprised as well.

When it comes to rear passenger room, all three models offer plenty of it, although tall people might have a slight issue as far as headroom is concerned on the Sorento, if they opt for a version with the panoramic glass roof. Otherwise, you really can’t complain.

Which is more car-like to drive?

That would be the Tiguan, which compared to the Kodiaq, also offers a quieter ride. Yet, if comfort is your main concern, getting the Kodiaq with its optional adaptive suspension makes for a very solid idea, although the Kia is pretty good in that department as well. However, unfortunately for the Sorento, its engine isn’t as smooth as the power unit shared by the Skoda and the VW.

In the end, the reviewer concluded that the Skoda Kodiaq deserves to win this comparison test as it offers you the best all-round value, which to us feels a bit like an underdog-type of result seen as how it’s still a new nameplate, whereas both the Tiguan and the Sorento are well-established models.

 

  • ast00

    Kia was the underdog. And it won the test. They just didn’t say it. It won everywhere except the driving. Which is fine because you don’t buy a 3 row SUV to hoon it.
    So the title is correct, the underdog won.

    • Miknik

      Indeed, watching the video, the impression is the Sorrento should have an easy win, but of course, it has to be a VAG car at the end…

    • Exactly. The Kodiaq is a really lovely car but you still have to pay to have 7 seats in a 7 seat-built car which baffles me considerably.

      • ast00

        That’s not the point. Most people buy 7 seaters to seat 5 people and their luggage. Having 7 seats as an option is fine.

        But the quality of the germans (the Kodiaq is german regardless of who says what) just isn’t there. Creaks and rattles, knocking suspension. I’ve driven them. They don’t deserve a win.

        • Loquacious Borborygmus

          I have a Skoda with no rattles and had a CC with no rattles.
          Maybe you got unlucky?

          • ast00

            I got lucky because I didn’t buy a VW group car. And do you know why I didn’t buy one? Because I know enough people who did.
            The CC is a B6 Passat under the skin. And the B6 is one of the worst cars I’ve ever been in in terms of rattles. Probably the same for the CC
            And the last Skoda I’ve driven was a test car. A Karoq 2.0 tdi dsg. It doesn’t really rattle but the suspension makes knocking noises when going over bumps. And stuff you touch does cream.

            Reliability? The hell is that even? In 1 year my friend’s B6 had:
            – wiring issue that stopped the mirrors from adjusting and the power windows were gone as well
            – 2 PD elements died
            – front right lock literally fell apart in it’s closed position, couldn’t open the door from inside or out. Had to rip the door panel off because you can’t access the screws when the door is closed.
            – EGR fail
            – torn rubber boots on the rear right shock causing it to fail
            – brake something cyilinder – rear right, sometimes the brakes grab even if you are not touching them
            – steering lock module prevented the car from starting
            – climate control flap moving motors ALL dying
            – electromic parking brake motors dying
            – and for some reason it started rolling coal despite it not being chipped and the egr is still there
            – there is a pixel stuck green on the radio
            – and it’s gonna need a new turbo and dmf in a few months…
            Except the hexagonal shaft rotating the oil pump just failed so the engine lost oil pressure. It was shut down in 5 seconds but that’s a good bye for the turbo.
            Don’t even get me started on DSG. Luckily this one is a manual.

            Another friend has a 2 year old Golf 7 GTD and he got a brand new head unit under warranty because it just died.

            Look. It’s ok for a new car to have problems with reliability. That’s (part of) why manufacturers reuse parts from older cars. But VW cannot produce a door lock that works. Ever since the B4 all the way to the B8 Passat they all fail.
            DSG is awesome when it works but unless you drive at a constant speed all day (motorway miles, no shifting), they all fail.

            They are junk.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            Yes, you get bad ones.
            How many of the good ones that don’t go wrong get praised?
            People are quick to tell you when something goes wrong but most don’t say anything when they have next to no problems.
            VW don’t help themselves by claiming they are better than most. They aren’t.
            I did have something go wrong on my CC during 3 years of ownership. A light bulb blew on it.

          • ast00

            Reliability is a statistic. Perhaps you should say “you get good ones”.
            Most of them are not good. That’s what the stats say.
            You owned a car for 3 years. That’s nothing. Perhaps the previous owner replaced half the car before you. Perhaps the next owner will.
            Ever heard of stuff like 95% of Siemens PD elements failing, high pressure fuel pumps dying on 2-3 year old cars (diesel AND petrol), timing chains failing on TSI engines, AC compressors shooting metal fragments through the AC lines, DSG mech units, etc? This is 10 years. For most manufacturers you won’t get this many common issues in 30 years.

            I know reliability because I own a reliable car. It was made by Ford 16 years ago. Done over 200k miles, owned it since brand new. It needed a few coil packs and an alternator. That’s all. I don’t count scheduled maintenance and stuff like shock absorbers because those things wear over time, not a fault.

            And you know what? I know enough new Ford owners to not buy from them again. Because the new ones are shit.
            Friend bought a brand new 1.5 Ecoboost in 2016. In 30k miles it had:
            – rough idle
            – misfires
            – AC not blowing cold
            – electric throttle body doing things randomly making it next to impossible to get going without jerking
            – steering pulling to the left
            – parcel shelf clip snapped off, now you can’t out it in place because it bounces away
            – Sync 2 stopped working TWICE
            – horrible build quality inside out, including doors you have to slam hard, doors that creak when you open them, door handles that are loose, interior trims that are not even close to lining up, but at least they creak and rattle.

            Buy a Kia, a Mazda, a PSA group car or something. They are vastly superior.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            Had a 2014 Mazda 6. Sold after found that on welds at wheel arch in trunk. Mazda’s are rusty.

          • ast00

            Some of them are. But it’s not like it’s gonna fall apart. Your exhaust rusts as well and yet it still lasts years. It’s not like it rusts where you can see it.
            Better than having a car that breaks down every month.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            But my CC never broke down and so far the Skoda is ok.
            Take as you find, I guess.

          • ast00

            Guessing they are too new.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            CC was 12 months old and sold at 48. Skoda 12 months old too. Both low mileage with no work done to them.

          • Phil

            “Statistics say VWs are unreliable”.
            Proves this with stories of his mate’s bad car and how he once owned a good Ford.

          • ast00

            I don’t need to prove that statistics say that. Look at the stats yourself.
            That B6 is just an example. But if you take a look at any VW forums or Facebook groups… There is a guy in a local group with a B6 BMP and he had to go through all of this minus the door luck, plus a head gasket and camshafts. Great.
            There is another guy who needed camshafts replaced, this time a 2.0 CR.

            And I still own that good Ford. Which makes it even more sad how shitty the new ones are.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            The point of visible rust. My wife had a 2011 Mazda 2, it had dozens (yes really!) of rust points on the roof come selling time. We still can’t figure out how it got so stone-chipped there. The seams on the front panel under the bonnet and at the suspension mount points were rusting too.
            Shame, because otherwise it was a good little car. 2 for 2.

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            PSA? Oh no. A fleet of them says otherwise.

          • Phil

            I bought a Karoq, no issues so far. Did a fair bit of research among Skoda owners in my country (Australia) before buying, and quality issues are rare particularly compared to the Hyundai Tucson which is its main competition here. Sounds like your friend’s B6 was the lemon to end all lemons.

          • ast00

            No issues other than the suspension knocking. The one I drove was a test car. If a test car has a problem, all of them do. It’s a test car because they want it to sell you a car. It’s always serviced and all the issues are fixed.

            Don’t know about the Tucson. Standing still it seems well built. Stuff you touch doesn’t creak. But I have not driven one.

          • Miknik

            Looks to be about the same quality as the last Volkswagen I owned (an Eos), and the vast majority of the VAG company cars in my company….

        • It’s a good point but you might as well buy a Karoq – the boot size is only 100l smaller and £4-5k less expensive.

          • ast00

            100l can be a life saver. This is the same thing saying you should buy a Fiesta if you were looking at a Focus. It’s only 100 l less.
            I know, it’s a bigger percentage difference, you get the point.
            Also some people buy the bigger car because it makes them feel better.

    • neil

      Strange, I thought the Tiguan Allspace was the underdog, being a stretched version of a smaller car.
      I know the Kodiaq is on the same platform, but in my mind it should be the better 7-seat SUV because it isn’t a stretched 5-seat SUV.

      • ast00

        Depends on how you define underdog.
        In my opinion underdog means the one that should win but has the lowest chance of actually winning.
        And that’s the Kia. How often do you see a VW win a comparison test when it clearly isn’t the best? A whole lot of times.
        And how often do you see a Kia win one when it clearly deserves it? Never.

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