Turns Out The New Toyota Supra Has Much More Than 335 Horses

Dyno figures suggest that (…in true BMW fashion) Toyota has been more than a little conservative with the power and torque figures of the 2020 Supra.

Car&Driver recently got its hands on a Supra and hooked it up to an all-wheel drive dyno in Dearborn Heights, Michigan. With the car running in fifth gear, the Japanese sports car churned out an impressive 339 hp and 427 lb-ft (578 Nm) of torque. These figures were measured at the wheels and are both up on the crank output promoted by Toyota.

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According to the car manufacturer, the boosted 3.0-liter inline-six of the Supra has 335 hp and 364 lb-ft (494 Nm) of torque. It’s difficult to say exactly how much of the engine’s power is lost through the drivetrain but if it’s even just 10 per cent, that means the Supra’s engine may in fact pump out around 380 hp, virtually identical to the new BMW M40i in U.S.-spec.

The magazine notes that the peak torque figure achieved may be a little inflated as the car’s torque converter probably isn’t fully locked until higher up in the rev range.

It’s not particularly surprising to learn that Toyota has understated the grunt of the Supra as it’s something many car manufacturers are doing nowadays. The potent figures of the Supra also go some way in explaining how Car and Driver was able to launch one to 60 mph (96 km/h) in just 3.8 seconds and set a storming quarter mile time of 12.3 seconds at 113 mph (181 km/h).

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  • ErnieB

    I actually like it all murdered out..

    • Jason Miller

      Black makes everything better. Too bad it sucks to take care of.

    • brn

      Unlike many, I like the vehicle. I just have issues with owning a motor made by BMW.

  • LJ

    Still ugly.

  • robotlogic

    Still not worth $50K.

    • ErnieB

      Agreed.. maybe $40k for a nicely optioned one..and rename it a Celica because it just looks like what a modern celica should look like.. this Supra should have been offered with the LC 500 engine in it..yup a V8 .. because why not.. with a more imposing design..

      • TED Schmitt

        The Supra was always a straight six, so the name is appropriate. Celicas were always fours, so this is not a Celica. And a V8 would make a different car entirely.

        • Kyle Newberry

          Also, Celica’s have always been FWD in recent history.

          • ErnieB

            Item could have been a pretty awesome Celica?

          • TED Schmitt

            The stupidly named “86” is the better Celica.

          • daddy

            Right!! The Scion 1m or now Corolla Wagon should be called the 86 as that is what it was a Corolla hatch (liftback). The new 86 should be called MR2 or Celica, I prefer cellica because it’s not a 2 seater.

          • TED Schmitt

            “In recent history”, no argument there. But the ORIGINAL Celica was RWD.

      • ctk4949

        Why not $30K?? LOL!!

        • ErnieB

          sure.. with cloth manual seats, manual trans, smaller touch screen, etc.. it’ll be a dream..

          • ctk4949

            Sure…thats called the BRZ…enjoy!!

      • getoffme

        Clearly you do not know anything.

        • ErnieB

          At least it would have been better than this BMW engine ..

          • gambit gamboa

            Yes Ernie, lets spend a billion dollars to develop a brand new engine so we could sell it for 40k like you say, cause so many people are buying 2 door coupes right now. You are so smart, I am going to promote you to CFO of Toyota Motor Corp. Outstanding suggestion.

          • ErnieB

            Aren’t they developing a v6 twin turbo? Toyota could have used any of the high performance engines used by the Lexus cars. They could have used the Lexus parts bin. Ford developed a Coyote and a Voodoo for their iconic sports car, why couldn’t Toyota who’s worth billions? It was just pure laziness.

          • getoffme

            Again you are clueless. Go buy a Lexus then. Or go make your own car and let’s see how much that would cost you.

        • ErnieB

          Clearly Toyota f-uped this Supra.. and I’ll bet money that sales after the 2nd year will disappoint and huge rebates will be needed to move them .. look at what’s happening to the NSX.. competition in this segment is intense..

          • Jason Miller

            In this segment? The Supra is hardly in the same segment as the NSX, which is like 2.5 times the price.

          • ErnieB

            No.. I meant Supra’s segment. Clearly they are not in the same segment..

          • getoffme

            That is the same reason why Toyota teamed up with BMW. The Supra is bound not to sell in huge numbers and for Toyota to build a brand new Inline-6 for one car, is not practical. That is how you F-up. Logic 101 for you.

    • Kyle Newberry

      I mean why not? It’s better than anything in it’s class. Multiple reviewers have said it’s better than an M2. Would you take a Corvette/Stang/Camaro over it? It’s a lot nicer looking and equal performance to those (and even above it’s price). Toyota took and basically helped modify and rebuild this engine for longevity for BMW.

      • ErnieB

        Wait.. this is not nicer looking than a corvette or mustang.. maybe nicer than the Camaro. A mustang PP2 GT would eat this for lunch.

        • robotlogic

          Agreed.

        • daddy

          Looks are subjective, but IMHO the C7 is fugly, one of the most disjointed and poorly proportioned cars ever. The new redesigned Camaro is ugly as well in the front and the rear is now too bland, though the outgoing ones were sexy. All of the recent Mustangs look good though historically they have been butt ugly. That’s all opinion though. Objectively in performance it’s Corvette>Supra>Camaro>Mustang as verified by thousands of road tests and hot laps.

      • Mr. EP9

        Please show me those reviewers that said it’s better than the M2 because that sounds like nonsense. And yes, I know it wasn’t directed at me, but I would take a Mustang, a Corvette, and a Camaro (the LT1 with 455hp mind you) over this because they have far better performance for far better value. I don’t know which planet where this is nicer looking (well, with exception to the Camaro) and equal performance because it’s not this one.

        • rwd300hpmanual2dr

          I’ve also seen reviews that it’s better/competes well with the M2.. which is not hard to believe lol they’re both BMWs with similar stats and similar price. I would take this over a Camaro/mustang, those cars are only cool til their next model year comes out. 50k is good price considering the 86 is almost 30k, and everything else that isn’t domestic is in the same range.. 340i, 440i, C43, 370Z Nismo, q60, RC350?

    • getoffme

      You are just poor. Facts.

      • robotlogic

        Poor? Are you deflecting? I Bet I own more sports cars than you own cars in total.

        • gambit gamboa

          And rich people dont care about price. Youre counting your 1990s sports cars collection? Cause theyre not worth much rofl.

          • robotlogic

            I hate to tell you that Rich people care about value and the Supra at $50K doesn’t have it. Now rich twits don’t care about anything and may buy the Supra but they probably already own a Tesla and have used up their one parking space. 1990’s sports cars are very quickly gaining value, in fact more than any other year. Are you sure your a car fan, because you don’t seem to know anything about them.

        • getoffme

          Then $50k is nothing to you then when you described your imaginary sports cars. Be gone contradicting tool.

          • robotlogic

            Treating $50K as nothing is not the sign of a rich person but a fool, this is a good example of why you will continue to be poor. Have fun being angry and poor the rest of your life.

  • europeon

    I think is less than 10% parasitic loss overall, including shafts, LSD, and everything else. ZF is doing wonders with each revision of the 8HP, they dropped from almost 20% on early revisions to something like 6-7% with the 3rd generation.

    • Alduin

      ZF is still awful.

      • europeon

        LOL?

        • Alduin

          One of the worst transmission producers in the world is ZF.

          • europeon

            Stop doing drugs.

          • Alduin

            ZF is garbage. Acura has nothing but problems with their ZF transmissions and so has Jeep. Don’t tell me they’re the greatest company in the world when they’re not.

  • Merc1

    Why is this news? Nearly every German or German engined car does this.

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    • Mr. EP9

      Slow news day?

  • TheBelltower

    Shocker! It’s a German engine. The car still looks like it was designed by a seven year old.

    • Enter Ranting

      Toyota engineered out their trademark reliability by using a BMW engine. Smart move.

      • TheBelltower

        There’s a reason that Toyota sticks with proven low-tech engines in the majority of their vehicles, and farms-out the performance engines to other manufacturers.

  • Kyle Newberry

    Man, looks killer! I’d take out the Red mirror caps tho. (ik it’s the launch edition pictured).

  • getoffme

    Only the haterades think otherwise. Facts.

    • Mr. EP9

      Not really. Everyone knows car makers can be rather conservative with their output figures.

  • brn

    I always felt like the 3.8 0-60 didn’t make sense with the HP/weight ratio on the car. Makes more sense now.

  • Kagan

    First and all queztion the amateurs measuring.

  • Jeff Scott

    I love the car but the every time I see the back end I think of Spaceballs Darth helmet https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74f538bd237f9d41fc37dda666068ac7992752f543556609af6b8919c3cb1972.jpg

  • FlameWater

    Supra haters getting destroyed, one year from now you will send mentally ill.

    • getoffme

      Haters are on their last straws. Sigh so so hilarious at their posts.

  • jason wu

    Please don’t buy this car for the sake of our children.

  • ksegg

    VANOS kicked in, yo. Then shortly explodes.

  • SteersUright

    Looking so mean in black from some angles and then flat out weird from other angles. Need to see this one in person.

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