Trump Thinks Renault Is Still Shipping Cars To The U.S.

U.S. President Donald Trump dropped another fun little nugget for the media to fact-check, and this time, it was about French automaker Renault.

Last week, during a diatribe about trade practices between the U.S. and Europe, Trump claimed that Renault was still shipping cars across the Atlantic, as reported by Autonews Europe. Of course, in reality, they haven’t done so for 30 some years.

“They put up tremendous barriers to our doing business in Europe,” said Trump. “Our farm products, very hard to get them in. Our cars, very hard to get them in, and yet they send Mercedes, they send BMW, they send Volkswagen, Renault, in case of France.”

He reportedly also mispronounced the French carmaker as “Ren-alt”, as opposed to “Ren-oh”.

While we’re pretty sure that his claim is backed by the fact that in the 80s, Renault partnered with AMC (American Motors Corporation), which resulted in cars such as the Renault Alliance (a U.S. version of the Renault 9) being built at AMC’s Kenosha plant in Wisconsin – the fact remains that the partnership did not survive into the 90s, with Renault eventually ending imports.

Renault Alliance Convertible

Back in 2017, former Renault CEO Carlos Ghosn was asked whether his company would follow rival PSA Group in returning to the United States, to which he replied that the U.S. market was too competitive and that he would rather focus on China and Russia as far as overseas exports were concerned.

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Speaking of the PSA Group, it has been officially reported that the Peugeot brand will spearhead its North American (USA, Canada) comeback. Right now, the French brand is in the process of homologating vehicles for the U.S. market, a process that’s expected to take several years.

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  • Six_Tymes

    because he should know everything, after all he is in the car business.

  • Marcus Meyn

    They are via Nissan.

    • matrem

      No, they aren’t. That’s a generous and lazy take on Trump’s moronic statement.

      • Marcus Meyn

        They are the same group. Just like FCA. Moronic yourself.

        • salamOOn

          I make beer. You make wine. We are in the same group. If i use your logic, then you make beer and not a wine.

          • ChrisInIL

            Hey, drinking and driving don’t mix, pal.

        • GlobalPostitpad

          Nissan and Renault are certainly not one company.

        • matrem

          They don’t sell any rebadged models in the US. Again, defending Trump’s moronic statement is a waste of time.

    • matrem

      Marcus is just here to troll for trump. They don’t actually care about cars.

  • HD

    Dear Americans. Can you please dump this person?

    • Marcus Meyn

      We already did in the 2016 elections.

      • matrem

        ????? Marcus, do you intend only to leave stupid comments?

        • i think he means that Clinton got the popular vote.

          even though the true popular vote was to stay home and not vote either way…

          • ChrisInIL

            Most estimates indicate 51-55% of registered voters voted in the 2016 US Presidential election.

            Mathematically, more people voted, than did not vote.

          • that’s registered voters. not everyone is registered though. some don’t care. some don’t know. ignoring 17 and under. the total participation in the election was fairly low from what i’ve heard.

  • ThatGuy

    Wow this guy needs to really sit down now.
    Im all for protectionism but just be logical and use facts.

    • illogicalPotato

      I love the fact that you call for logic and facts and your comment is down-voted. Showcases our great
      commentariat.

      • Loquacious Borborygmus

        Who says it’s the logic part that people down voted?

        • illogicalPotato

          Ah, so you’re saying that people ignored the part about logic and facts and down voted cause he told the POTUS to sit down? (Which he is definitely doing more of that, than standing I just want to point out)

          • Loquacious Borborygmus

            I was thinking more protectionism, actually.

          • illogicalPotato

            Well then, I don’t think anyone is disputing that. The US is the number one luxury car market in the world. So of course they would bring all their luxury vehicles over here which are primarily European. I don’t think he grasps the concept as to why those european cars sell well here while ours don’t. IF our luxury cars (Cadillac, Lincoln) were on par with the europeans, things would be different; but they’re not. If we want to sell on their turf then our product needs to be better than theirs, much less at the same quality as theirs. Much like how they succeed in our markets. POTUS Wil make as much noise as he likes but europeans aren’t going to buy Lincolns. Chinese will though however; but that’s becoming increasingly more difficult now.

          • ThatGuy

            Actually on my side there are many people that love “Merican” cars, i do. I would purchase a Hellcat if i could, but we have right hand drive cars, so there’s that.
            In terms of Quality many US are are very good, not all but a very good few and they are reliable, not all but a good few. The problem is shipping costs put the price of majority of US cars, in a very high bracket, in terms of a value proposition.

            Jeep is the only Manu that has plants on almost all continents, and the price reflects that in their respective foreign markets. To have a chevy sonic priced close to a VW Polo is crazy from a value proposition.

            Producing state side only is the killer in my opinion, if they opened plants in Africa, Europe and Australia would help open more markets. They are doing well in Asia and their foot print there continues to grow.
            If the other Car Manufacturers are doing it, the US should too. Until then they will continue to pull out of markets and lose a competitive edge because shipping costs are very heavy.

      • ThatGuy

        1. Down voted because people disagree or feel a certain way, no issues.
        2. Choose one, depending on your feelings, either they show casing disagreement or they are troglodytes.

        Logic and facts, meaning he lies alot, what is the count. LOL

  • Kapi19

    “In my great and unmatched wisdom” …….yeah sure haha

    • Marcus Meyn

      OK Hillary.

      • matrem

        Who?

      • Enter Ranting

        STILL can’t get over Hillary?

  • Marcus Meyn

    Funny you left-wing ding bats don’t admit your presidential wrong doings.

    • matrem

      Which were what, Trumper?

    • Shut up boomer.

  • I hope Waren wins this year.. POWER for the women!

    • ChrisInIL

      If she wins this year, does that mean she can’t win next year when the election is held?

      • You’re a funny man, mr ChrisnIL, that is way i’m gonna … you last.

        ILied

        • illogicalPotato

          Commando references are always welcome.

        • ChrisInIL

          You posted a string of words. Will you please rearrange them into a sentence, or at least a cogent thought?

          • You should go and watch more early 90’s film.

          • ChrisInIL

            Excellent. Now, can you explain how the drivel you posted previously equates to “You should go and watch more early 90’s film.”

            I ask because none of the words in your previous post relate to the functional sentence to which you replied.

          • Ohh shut it facist.

  • CarCzarDesigner

    What’s important here is the President is going to bat for American citizens and working to get Equal Trade terms with the European Union. Other US Presidents never tackled these issues and if they did, it never got any traction.

    Let’s remember Barack Obama while running for President is on record for stating there are 52 States in the United States of America! …This from a Harvard Graduate & Professor that taught classes on U.S. Constitution!

    • GlobalPostitpad

      No, He builds strawmen which his ill-informed followers can rile against.
      References to former POTUS is whataboutery.
      Do you have an interest in cars?

      • CarCzarDesigner

        I personally saw Obama say this on Television. I didn’t have to look it up on the Internet.

        • GlobalPostitpad

          You do understand what Whataboutery is and how it is used by those who aren’t approaching a contentious topic honestly?

        • ctk4949

          Pretty sure he was joking around here is the full quote…

          “It is wonderful to be back in Oregon,” Obama said. “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it.”

          • Enter Ranting

            57 States?! That MONSTER!!!

    • Nastinupe1911

      See… you did it too. He said 57. Nobody is perfect. The difference between Trump’s comment and Obama’s comment is about action and execution. The statement about how many states he’s visited was a general blunder of a passing comment, however, Trump was specifically discussing tariffs and sanctions and taxes and trade agreements. He was discussing how the trade balance was unfair, yet naming something that did not exist. It was a much more relevant blunder in the sense that if you’re going to list whats wrong and who’s doing it, you need to know who to blame. It’s the difference between me saying that there are 9 planets in our solar system instead of 8 and arguing that the E in E= MC2 stands for Electrons when trying to argue against a scientific theory.

      • AintYerPa

        So basically, its OK when Obama did it..

      • CarCzarDesigner

        I get it. I had the news on and I was making dinner. My bad! 57 States…that’s even worse! We all want a better life, there is no argument there, is there?

      • Porkopolis

        Blunder or dog whistle?

    • 57 actually.

      though that’s basically a typo, you want to complain about something try “you didn’t build that” “if i had a son” or “after the election i’ll have more flexibility”

  • ctk4949

    I just don’t understand how some sooooooooooooo stupid became POTUS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

    • Stephen G

      His kind are not the minority in America.

      • HaltestelleLuitpolthafen

        Yes they are.

        He’s giving all Americans a terrible reputation.

        • dumblikeyou2

          LOL. Reputation to who? The rest of the groveling world? Spare us. We’re truly not concerned unless you want to pay our bills for us. Until then, your three cents are of no concern.

    • well it was either him or the woman who may or may not melt if you get her wet…

  • technically he’s not wrong. Renault is the origin and builder of the current smart 42

    • Perry F. Bruns

      The third generation Smart Fortwo shares parts with the Renault Twingo, but is built at a Daimler / Swatch factory in Hambach, France called Smartville.

    • Ron

      And you seriously think thats what he meant to say? He seriously could shoot someone in time square and not lose a single follower. His words, not mine. He literally can do no wrong when it comes to his cult.

      • except he’s complaining about unfair trade balances and not shooting people so there’s also that…

  • TheBelltower

    Of all the idiotic stuff the orange dotard has done lately, this ranks really really low.

  • ChrisInIL

    Cheers to this site for posting about Trump again.

    I think you have just the right mix of car stories and non-car stories (to boost revenue, thus paying for the car stories).

    • Nowan

      why not ? Trump talk about Renault, which is a car company

      • ChrisInIL

        Did you notice I was praising the site for the article?

  • AintYerPa

    Umm, Renault–Nissan–Mitsubishi Alliance… Pretty sure they sell cars here…

    • Perry F. Bruns

      But none are Renault-branded. None are imported from France. Some are even built in the US.

      • AintYerPa

        Well, you aren’t going to convince me, and I won’t convince you – This is a NON-Story anyway…

        • Perry F. Bruns

          Then keep arguing against facts, I guess.

          If it’s a non-story, why comment?

          • AintYerPa

            Because it’s a free country and I can’t stand hypocrisy.

            And btw, he never said “Renault-branded” He also never said “imported from France”… But maybe you just misspoke.. It happens…

          • Perry F. Bruns

            He said, “… they send…”

            Yeesh.

          • AintYerPa

            Okay, I guess he did kinda say that part, but what about “Renault-branded”?

      • AintYerPa

        And anyway, maybe the busiest/most important man (Who graduated from Wharton, btw) in the world just decided to shorten the name of the Alliance…

        Either way, I just find it incredibly hilarious (and somewhat insulting) that when/if Pres. Trump misspeaks or omits a few words it becomes TOP STORY BREAKING NEWS, but anyone else does the same, it’s no big deal…

        • Perry F. Bruns

          You give him too much credit.

          • AintYerPa

            You don’t give him enough.

          • Perry F. Bruns

            He tends to default on it.

          • AintYerPa

            Wow – I couldn’t stand Obama, but I would never have said he wasn’t important..

            …The hypocrisy is strong in this one…

        • TheBelltower

          You don’t know what you’re talking about. He bought his way into Warton, and we don’t know if he legitimately graduated. However we do know for a fact that he established a fake university, so that’s something I guess. I was there when his name was erected to the top of (what was once called) the GM building. And I was there when they hoisted it down during one of his many bankruptcies. I know of stores on 5th ave that he jilted, as well as contractors and suppliers that he defaulted. He was mostly considered a harmless annoyance at one time. Now he’s just dangerous. Please don’t attempt to convince the 70% of us who know what’s going on.

          • AintYerPa

            You mean the 20% of you who THINK you know what’s going on? Friggin’ CNN parrot… Suffer from NPC syndrome much?

            Oh man – I really can’t wait to see what fools like you are like after he gets re-elected in 2020…

            Like Hillary said – “It’s the Economy, Stupid”…

          • TheBelltower

            You’re so charming. I think we’re done.

          • AintYerPa

            OK, Troll.. bu-bye.

            And btw – “Wharton” has an ‘H’ in it… or did you just mistype…???????

          • TheBelltower

            Gosh. I must be really stupid. Good thing I have you.

          • AintYerPa

            Do I really have to spell it out??? You spelled Wharton without the ‘H’. Our President said Renault ships from France to USA.

            Point: We are all human beings. We make mistakes.. Its OK to make mistakes. We shouldn’t have to worry about people jumping down our throats for the simple sh!t…

          • Emoto

            How do Obama’s college records compare? 😉

          • Perry F. Bruns

            According to edureview dot com /blog/2008/10/barack-obamas-gpa-and-college-records/, his undergraduate career lacked much distinction, but he was good enough to get into a good grad school, where he excelled.

            An article in Forbes suggests thy Trump’s undergrad years were similar, though he never went to graduate school. Trump also claimed at least once to have graduated at or near the top of his class, which was not true.

            By the way, this article is about Donald Trump and his lack of knowledge about imports he is trying to regulate.

          • Emoto

            The point is that Obama’s records are completely sealed. We cannot examine them.

          • Perry F. Bruns

            This article is about Trump (whose Wharton records also are not available). Your whataboutism is showing.

          • Todd Priest

            Cites whataboutism while his Messiah practiced it for two full terms.

          • Perry F. Bruns

            Again, the article is about Donald Trump. Welcome to the present. My point stands.

            For that matter, you also used whataboutism to cite whataboutism. ‘Bye!

        • Enter Ranting

          Shorten the name of the alliance? You mean like he did with “Tim Apple?”

        • 12333444333

          You’re right it’s excusable that one of the most influential men in the world should fail to accurately disseminate information. You’re so very right. To hell with facts; repeatedly.

          • AintYerPa

            OOOOHHHH – So its because he’s the President that he can’t make mistakes or shorten names? AAAHHH… You are a hypocrite (Unless you can link me some posts or comments of yours when you called out Obama every time he misspoke (which he did – on a regular basis)). So, bottom line, Trump is different – HE isn’t allowed to be human because…. You don’t like him…

    • JRP

      Link me an American Renault website and I won’t say anything about you.

  • Porkopolis

    In his defense, most politicians and billionaires haven’t driven a car for 20+ years. Nor could they identify the iconic shape of something simple like a Jeep Wranger. Heck, I bet they wouldn’t be able to identify the Ford emblem without reading it.

  • Mike R

    Check your facts (and keep politics out of your articles). There’s been a Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi manufacturing alliance since 2017.

    • Jason Miller

      The point is that Renault does not sell cars here. End of story.

      • NTVRP Rademenes Polański

        Who is producing and shipping Smart cars to USA?

        • Perry F. Bruns

          Daimler, in partnership with Swatch, just as always. Renault has no stake in the company, though Daimler does source some parts from the Renault Twingo.

  • Porkopolis

    See below for what happens when you report a non-issue political matter on car forum. Those making comments argue semantics of the manufacturer while forgetting the purpose of the remarks. Thus demonstrating that most of the wannabe-commentariat are bots, or worse, they think like bots.

    • TheBelltower

      What do you think people should be discussing? The article is about the comical inaccuracies and lack of understanding about just one of many topics shown by our president. When it comes to trade inequities, our delusional leader is just shaking his pokin’ stick at the sky, because no one disagrees. Hopefully he can correct it without getting us in another $2T worth of debt.

      • Porkopolis

        On a car website? They should discuss ideas about cars.

        • TheBelltower

          Probably true. Though it doesn’t have to all be hard-hitting news. A little levity is okay once in awhile.

          • Porkopolis

            But it’s not levity, it’s just cheap. Musk/Tesla is no longer very polarizing, and most enthusiasts are fine leaving the Tesla boys to their circle jerk. So… someone got intellectually lazy and went for the low-hanging fruit. Don’t you feel used?

          • TheBelltower

            Well since you put it that way… kinda. I feel dirty now.

    • Avtomad

      It sure gets comments though, and I for one find reading them highly entertaining.

      • Porkopolis

        I agree. There’s more news in the comments than there is in the news.

  • Thunderbolt

    Is Trump a car guy?

    • Ron

      It’s debatable that he’s even a human.

    • TB

      He’s a hooker guy.

  • Alexandro Pietro

    TRUMP! take care: the empire of macedonia wil invade USA with its suvs and sports cars!!! and with its warriors!!! it is the end of the great America as you desire!!!hahahahah!!!!

  • Enter Ranting

    What’s left of his addled brain is circling the drain. Sad.

  • Ben

    Gee, he miss pronounced a foreign company’s name. Lets focus in on that because this needs serious debating. Who cares?! Leave the Trump news to CNN and lets stick with car enthusiast topics. No need to track political mud in a fun space.

  • MP

    This guy is probably the biggest dumbass in the world right now. I’m not talking about his mispronounciation, but the fact he doesn’t know a specific company does not do business with this country.

    • Todd Priest

      Yet he won the presidency and has more success than you ever have or ever will. I’ll be stupid too.

  • We’ll keep our Renaults, you keep you farm products. Good products are already rare in Europe, no need for American ones. (but ok for Jeep, you can send those)

  • MarkoS

    With 43% shares in Nissan, Renault would indeed be a lobby for Nissan. Nice Liberal Fake News.

  • Six Thousand Times

    These stories are useful to draw out the Trumpers. Then I can block them – unless they are the usual car people.

  • Todd Priest

    How petty. I can’t wait to see how all you idiots act when he wins again. I don’t even like the guy but will vote solely for this because I hate liberals more than I do Bad Orange Man.

    • Dude

      Pretending to not like Trump and saying you’ll vote for him because an article about his mush brain made you mad is way more pathetic than just saying you support him lol. Nice try I guess

      • Marcus Meyn

        I like Trump and I don’t care what people say. They’re all programed CNN bots.

        • Dude

          As a software engineer I seriously hate Russia for throwing the word ‘bot’ into the hands of brain dead boomers. It’s completely lost its meaning. But good for you on keeping those blinders on.

  • Todd Priest

    You’re an idiot.

  • Porkopolis

    Oooh, bots are going to block us? Scary…

  • TB

    That AssClown is an absolute embarrassment. My apologies to our Allied Friends across the pond. I’m hopeful our country will be making changes in the area in 2020.

    • Marcus Meyn

      Your allies across the Pound also have Brexit taking place. People are getting tired of all the nonsense set up by Oclowna/Soros/Tony Blaire/Merkel/Marcon/Trudo(?)/HC. Yes, Trump has weird hair, but he’s the only one who is awake.

  • Americans, why did you vote for him?

  • Wandering_Spirit

    Wow i came here to chill and found a full-fledged collective struggle with users throwing Trumptrums at each other! I go read car news at Realclearpolitics now! I’ll be back later.

  • DGC

    Thanks tRump! I won’t buy a new Renault in the USA! I am going down to my local Pontiac dealer and get one of those Catatinas!

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